coilover conversion rear (Page 2/2)
rubyredfiero MAY 22, 10:58 AM
I did the coil over conversion similar to the pic by FIEROALL using 12" springs. The part I don't like is that when the car is lifted or bounces hard, the coil comes out of the upper collar. The spring can even ride up on the threaded sleeve and possibly get damaged before the spring settles in each collar. My question is, what can be done to prevent the strut from opening past the free length of the spring. In my case 12".
Spadesluck MAY 22, 12:52 PM
This is a pretty simple thing to do without buying a kit. Just take a look at this link Rear Coilovers How To. I did mine with 300lb 10" springs. I will be moving to a QA1 350lb 10" high travel spring next. I have never had a problem with my spring coming off the perch.

edit...i do need to add that the buying of a kit i was referring to was the ebay one. You do have options, you can build your own or purchase a fieroguru's product.

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fierosound MAY 22, 12:58 PM

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Originally posted by rubyredfiero:

I did the coil over conversion similar to the pic by FIEROALL using 12" springs. The part I don't like is that when the car is lifted or bounces hard, the coil comes out of the upper collar. The spring can even ride up on the threaded sleeve and possibly get damaged before the spring settles in each collar. My question is, what can be done to prevent the strut from opening past the free length of the spring. In my case 12".



Some coilovers have a dust boot like the original struts had.
They'd keep the coil in line with the upper collar.

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ltlfrari MAY 22, 02:02 PM
You can install something called a 'helper spring' on each strut.

Hyperco CS100
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/hyc-s0072


You'd also need a coupling spacer for each

https://eibach.com/us/i-100...coupling-spacer.html

The helper spring spends most of its life in full compression but if you lift the car and the strut extends beyond the spring, the helper spring expands and takes up the slack.

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fieroguru MAY 22, 03:03 PM
There are a few things that go into causing this issue as well as several options to address.

Spring rate, desired ride height, and orientation of upper strut hat all can help or hurt this issue. Generally speaking, stiffer springs, lower stance, and the strut hat in the stock location will make the issue worse (amount of gap at full droop).

With the stut hat in the stock location (bushing is below the strut tower), the bushing boss area is normally built up to keep the spring centered. With this setup, as long as the droop and spring gap is less than 1", the spring will always self right when loaded. This is a picture of the built up area around the bushing to center the spring.


In some applications it is desirable to flip the strut hat (this gives you more available suspension travel when lowered, but it needs to be a fastback or an 88 for clearance above the strut towers). One of the advantages of the flipped strut hat, is it reduces the droop distance 1", which helps minimize any excessive gap.

In flipped hat orientation, you still need to keep the spring centered, so I use similar spring caps as shown above. The issue with them is the centering flange is only about 3/8" long, so if the spring gap is more than that, the top of the spring can hit the strut shaft and might not always self center. The easy fix for it is to drill a hole in the spring cap and wire tie the spring to the cap. Then at full droop the spring is lifted off the lower perch (where it will always self center) and stays seated to the shorter top perch.


I have seen people use the spring cap with the strut hat in the stock position (bushing below the strut tower), but I don't advise doing that. That has the cap sitting on the vertical bushing tube which wan't intended to take that kind of load. That edge is also sharp and over time can cut into the aluminum cap. With the cap used as I have shown, the load is better distributed to the strut hat plate.

You can also go with longer softer springs to pre-load the coilovers, but that typically isn't done as it takes more trial and error to get the right rate at the desired ride height.

Helper springs also work, but add $100+ to the cost of the coilovers that most people are trying to accomplish at the lowest cost possible.

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