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pmbrunelle
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DEC 20, 07:51 PM
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The opinion / rant portion:
| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Most what?  People who don't breathe? Do these same people defecate in their drinking water?
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Facts:
| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
It's not like the benefits of a catalytic converter can't be measured. There is nothing to debate. Catalytic converters do indeed reduce toxic gases and pollutants from the exhaust of internal combustion engines. |
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Patrick
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DEC 20, 08:28 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by pmbrunelle:
The opinion / rant portion:
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Kind of short for a "rant", no? 
Have a look in O/T political threads for endless examples of actual rants. 
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ChuckR
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DEC 21, 11:53 AM
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Yes I meant most people do not care. And they dont. they all say words like we need to do something, but that doesn't me "I need to do something" We means someone else.
I said to install a new Cat and keep the stink away, and also not impact the environment as much as you would if you left it off. I guess I didnt explain I meant leaving the cat off would impact in a harmful way? What exactly did you take umbrage with in what I said?
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Gall757
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DEC 21, 12:56 PM
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Well, here is hoping that your vision of 'most people' is either incorrect or out of date. Perhaps you should say 'most people that I know'?
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Patrick
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DEC 21, 04:37 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by ChuckR:
What exactly did you take umbrage with in what I said?
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I appreciate that you've personally acted in a responsible manner in regards to retaining a cat... but making totally unsubstantiated claims about others serves no one.
| quote | Originally posted by ChuckR:
Yes I meant most people do not care. And they dont.
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[This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 12-21-2019).]
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Raydar
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DEC 21, 05:49 PM
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Without having read all of the previous discourse, here is my opinion.
Obviously, a new cat will help to reduce smog and, more immediately, stinky exhaust. I removed the cat from my 88 4 cylinder, and have noticed an increase in exhaust smell since doing that. I would give serious consideration to installing a replacement, except that the engine is going to be swapped before I put too many more miles on the car. So it may not be worth the trouble.
If you care about the environment, and the car is going to be a "daily", then yeah... install a cat. If it's only going to be driven once a month, to club meetings or etc., then I wouldn't bother.
Without a cat, you will notice a bit more exhaust note, but nothing obnoxious. (The best sounding Fiero I ever heard was a cammed 3.4 with headers, an Ocelot system, and no cat.)
People behind you will get the full benefit of all the chemical additives in the gas that the cat would likely remove. (I am old enough to remember a time when gas contained lead, and cars didn't have cats. The exhaust back then was much less objectionable than the exhaust produced by the current exotic lead-free blends. Nobody ever mentions that.)
FWIW... My 4.9 car has a cat, which will likely stay in place. It's plenty loud as it is.
The swap on the Duke car (a 3.4 DOHC) may or may not include a cat. I have both options available to me, but it depends upon what I need to do to package the exhaust system.
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Raydar
88 Formula IMSA Fastback. 4.9, NVG T550
 
Praise the Lowered![This message has been edited by Raydar (edited 12-21-2019).]
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Tony Kania
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DEC 22, 11:34 AM
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Patrick
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DEC 22, 02:33 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Tony Kania:
Multiple negatives coming from Patrick's "accounts". 
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Tony, sorry to see you're still not well.
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