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engine man
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JUL 19, 09:01 PM
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I was wondering what Volkswagen engine did he swap in and was it a transverse or longitudinal swap
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fieroguru
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JUL 19, 10:02 PM
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engine man
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JUL 19, 11:30 PM
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I don't know why i don't feel it is that big of a deal putting the W8 engine in as most of the things i did on the Audi 4.2 v8 will work right on this engine and even work better as the engine is 5 inches shorter i will use the same manual transmission out of a 2000 passat so it will be a longitudinal install i should have about 4 to 5 inches from the firewall to the front of the engine and the axles should line up unlike the audi v8 install so those are all a plus and the W8 had a standard transmission so i can use the stock ecu but getting the wiring right is a bit tougher but not impossible
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Will
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JUL 22, 10:36 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by engine man:
I don't know why i don't feel it is that big of a deal putting the W8 engine in as most of the things i did on the Audi 4.2 v8 will work right on this engine and even work better as the engine is 5 inches shorter i will use the same manual transmission out of a 2000 passat so it will be a longitudinal install i should have about 4 to 5 inches from the firewall to the front of the engine and the axles should line up unlike the audi v8 install so those are all a plus and the W8 had a standard transmission so i can use the stock ecu but getting the wiring right is a bit tougher but not impossible |
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Why not go W12 from a Phaeton or A8, then? The A8 ones are even dry sump, as I heard it.
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engine man
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JUL 22, 11:31 AM
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i would love to do the W12 Will i just don't have that much money right now but that is a fueter project and i have a W8 that i know runs i still need to finish my SC 4.2 audi powered fiero i have the engine and drivetrain done but need to finish up on the body because i just had to chop the top like a dummy but it sure looks good [This message has been edited by engine man (edited 07-22-2019).]
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Rickady88GT
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NOV 26, 12:03 PM
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Any updates on this?
What does a w8 take out cost?
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engine man
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NOV 26, 02:34 PM
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no i just have time to work on my house trying o get it ready for sale then i am moving back to FL as i am sick of being cold in the winter but once i get settled in then i will start on some projects again
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sourmash
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NOV 26, 03:00 PM
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He bought the car complete with a bad trans. The cars are pretty cheap. They aren't Fiero cheap but they're depreciated used car cheap.
BTW, the W12 is barely longer than the W8 and costs around $2500 starting I think. Seriously, it's barely any longer.
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Rickady88GT
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NOV 26, 03:15 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by sourmash:
He bought the car complete with a bad trans. The cars are pretty cheap. They aren't Fiero cheap but they're depreciated used car cheap.
BTW, the W12 is barely longer than the W8 and costs around $2500 starting I think. Seriously, it's barely any longer. |
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What cars come with a w12 that we could harvest reasonably? I never even considered a w12 Fiero swap because I had assumed the cost would be astounding.
Also, what transmission can it be mated to?
I am REALLY liking the VW DSG. The new dry clutch version supposedly is rated for 440foot pounds of torque and has 7 speeds with lightning fast shifts.[This message has been edited by Rickady88GT (edited 11-26-2020).]
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sourmash
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NOV 26, 03:23 PM
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The VW Phaeton had the W12. Cool factor is high and probably never been done. 12 cylinders just rev forever. They're also a couple hundred heavier than the LSx I'd say. The Audi used it most likely. Probably in the S8? Not sure what they bolt up to.
Found this:
After 17 years on the market, Audi has sounded the death knell on the A8 W12. Audi R&D honcho Peter Mertens — the same exec who suggested the end of the R8 — told Car and Driver at the Geneva Motor Show that the new 2019 A8 "is going to be the last installation" of the 6.0-liter 12-cylinder. That won't affect our market since the Audi retired the W12 here in 2017, and the engine won't reappear in the 2019 model. Our top end will be the A8 60 with a 4.0-liter, twin-turbo V8 making 460 horsepower and 486 pound-feet of torque. The W12 isn't dead yet — Audi gets the engine from Bentley, and Bentley has no plans to quit it.
Introduced to the market in 2001 for Europe and Asia in the first-generation A8, we didn't get the W12 until 2005, in the second-gen luxo-sedan. Back then, the oddball motor built up from the the VR6 in the Volkswagen Corrado made 444 horsepower and 430 pound-feet of torque. Today's Audi W12 stands at 585 hp and 627 lb-ft, detuned from the 633 hp and 620 lb-ft it makes in the Bentley Continental GT.[This message has been edited by sourmash (edited 11-26-2020).]
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