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msweldon
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FEB 23, 07:36 PM
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Just to put the bed any hopes of utilizing the Cobalt Turbo axles with an F40 swap of either swapping the fiero cups onto the end or even resplining the axle ends...
1.) The cobalt star/cage/balls will not fit into the fiero outboard axle stub housing... the cobalt cage is slightly larger and the balls are a few millimeters larger in diameter.
2.) Here's the 'real' goocher..... after number one above was fully realized I took some measurements on the cobalt vs fiero axle stub ends to make sure the cobalt axle can be resplined.... The fiero splined end is 26.5mm.. the cobalt splined is several mm thicker but is only half as far down the shaft as the fiero splining... behind the cobalt splining, further down the shaft where the fiero splining would be cut.. the cobalt axle necks down to 25.5mm so the end of the cobal axle cannot be splined to that of the fiero..... what a waste of some seriously stout axles......
The cobalt turbo axles 'can' be obtained to fit the fiero if one were to order the GMPP Cobalt Wheel Hop kit but that's $800... might as well get the LSJ stage 2 axles from the driveshaftshop for that amount of coin...
The cobalt parts are all in the lower part of each image...
Looking into the G6/Saturn Aura axles like joseph upson, saab 9-3/9-5 axles
Saab 9-3 or 9-5 axles and respline the end for the fiero…
Or go with Dutch Axle / drive shaft shop to cut some duplicates of the cobalt turbo axles splined for the fiero outboard cups...
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Daryl M
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FEB 23, 09:38 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by msweldon:
Just to put the bed any hopes of utilizing the Cobalt Turbo axles with an F40 swap of either swapping the fiero cups onto the end or even resplining the axle ends...
1.) The cobalt star/cage/balls will not fit into the fiero outboard axle stub housing... the cobalt cage is slightly larger and the balls are a few millimeters larger in diameter.
2.) Here's the 'real' goocher..... after number one above was fully realized I took some measurements on the cobalt vs fiero axle stub ends to make sure the cobalt axle can be resplined.... The fiero splined end is 26.5mm.. the cobalt splined is several mm thicker but is only half as far down the shaft as the fiero splining... behind the cobalt splining, further down the shaft where the fiero splining would be cut.. the cobalt axle necks down to 25.5mm so the end of the cobal axle cannot be splined to that of the fiero..... what a waste of some seriously stout axles......
The cobalt turbo axles 'can' be obtained to fit the fiero if one were to order the GMPP Cobalt Wheel Hop kit but that's $800... might as well get the LSJ stage 2 axles from the driveshaftshop for that amount of coin...
The cobalt parts are all in the lower part of each image...
Looking into the G6/Saturn Aura axles like joseph upson, saab 9-3/9-5 axles
Saab 9-3 or 9-5 axles and respline the end for the fiero…
Or go with Dutch Axle / drive shaft shop to cut some duplicates of the cobalt turbo axles splined for the fiero outboard cups... |
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Part number GM8217 from rockauto was a bolt in on my project. Have you checked it?
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msweldon
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FEB 23, 10:19 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Daryl M:
Part number GM8217 from rockauto was a bolt in on my project. Have you checked it? |
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Yes... however, I'm looking for something a bit more stout to handle the LF3 output.... and the GM8217's used by the supercharged cobalt was known to snap at stock tq levels....[This message has been edited by msweldon (edited 02-23-2019).]
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msweldon
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MAR 26, 12:33 PM
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Axle update... It looks like I'll be able to use the Cobalt SS Turbo axles after all... The Cobalt axles should be able to be resplined to fit the manual G6 outboard inner race as the G6 circlip is on the end of the axle like the Cobalt axles. OD and ID of the Cobal axle outboard end vs the G6 inner race work out with 1 mm to spare. Cobalt axles sent off to Hudlow Axle in North Georgia for resplining.
Ok... Vendor woes...
First, I know several PFF members have utilized California Clutch / Clutchnet over the years, including myself for a stage 1 clutch on a Mazda 6 restore I completed last year. However for my LF3/F40 build I ordered a saab 9-3 2.8T V6 billet solid flywheel, pressure plate, and 6 puck sprung clutch back at the beginning of January. I was initially told 10 business days for delivery and after 3 conversations where each time I was told 'next friday' or 'just waiting on the flywheel' during February, Oleg at Clutchnet has gone radio silent on me. Will not return calls/messages.. no status updates... nothing... I know he's there as one Friday after I left a message around mid afternoon I had a friend immediately call him up and leave a message about how he was interested in a new clutch/pp/fw and he immediately returned his call.
I noticed on the web that a few others have had similar experiences online recently and a few similar posts at the BBB.
Anyone else had this type of experience with ClutchNet recently?
On another Vendor issue..
I had been dealing with AlphaFabIndustries/Motorsports out of MI as they advertised a complete stand alone harness for the LF3 retuned E92 ECU, including all sensors for 1.5K$, spendy but that's a ton of time I could save on this build. Last fall I looked up their reviews, contacted them, asked them as many questions as I could about their business, turnaround time, etc.. and paid them in full last October for the harness and DBW throttle pedal. Then located and shipped them an XTS LF3 ECU to speed up their process. They do answer their phone, "IF" you know the extension and I called them every Friday to every other Friday since the end of January inquiring as to the status of the Harness.. Every time I got answer of, We'll get right back to you and call you back today, it'll be ready next Wednesday for shipment, etc..etc...
I contacted them to see if they'd be will to just back out of the deal, refund me my payment, and return my ECU. They jumped at the opportunity, apologized, took my card # for the refund and stated that the ECU would be shipped by that Friday. That was 10 business days ago......aaannnnnddddd you guessed it.......nothing... Called yesterday, asked to send in an email to get a response by the end of the day by the owner....nothing... emailed this morning... nothing.... They are alive and well as per their facebook page, doing quite well from what it seems...even moved to a larger shop.
I've got every email correspondence between us that backs up the story with AlphaFab.
Has anyone ever gone through the credit card charge back scenario with a vendor? Advice, pointers, etc?[This message has been edited by msweldon (edited 03-26-2019).]
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Daryl M
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MAR 26, 07:06 PM
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What are you going to do for an ECU now?
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pmbrunelle
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MAR 26, 07:08 PM
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How does resplining work? Do they anneal, cut whatever they have to cut, and then re-harden? Or do they just cut the axle as-is?
I would avoid vendor #1, as if you're having communications problems with them before sending them a penny, after payment it could quickly degenerate into the situation you are presently experiencing with vendor #2.
Just about two weeks ago, my dad bought a brand-new car, and paid an extra fee to get the plus-sized mag wheels. When he got home with the new car, he noticed that the car had the standard-sized wheels. He kept calling the car dealer and getting the runaround, or being ignored.
After a week of this, he sent a letter (addressed to the salesman at the car dealer) threatening legal action if the problem could not be resolved... lo and behold the director of the dealer got back in touch with my dad right away, so we'll see how that goes...
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msweldon
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MAR 26, 07:52 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Daryl M:
What are you going to do for an ECU now? |
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Roll up the sleeves, get a Cadillac ATS-V manual ECU and harness with Fuel Pump Control Module and get the whole thing running outside the car then customize the harness for the fiero bay...
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Daryl M
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MAR 26, 09:25 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by msweldon:
Roll up the sleeves, get a Cadillac ATS-V manual ECU and harness with Fuel Pump Control Module and get the whole thing running outside the car then customize the harness for the fiero bay... |
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You may want to contact Ryan at Sinister performance/GMTuners. He was great to work with and the price was fair, especially considering the good customer service I received. He reprogrammed my OEM ECU and sent a detailed set of wiring instructions.
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msweldon
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MAR 27, 10:40 AM
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Ryan isnt taking on any new business at the moment..
Found a swap place in ohio that's already sold a few LF3 and lf4 stand alone setups so they're helping me out when I have questions for a small fee
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Daryl M
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MAR 27, 10:47 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by msweldon:
Ryan isnt taking on any new business at the moment..
Found a swap place in ohio that's already sold a few LF3 and lf4 stand alone setups so they're helping me out when I have questions for a small fee |
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Great! I am following your build with great interest. I'm curious to see how the turn is fit.
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