Buying a fiero with no keys (Page 2/3)
fierofool FEB 05, 08:46 AM
The door lock cylinder and ignition lock cylinders require different keys. You can't cut a key for the ignition using the door lock cylinder unless there is a code number that translates to 2 different cuts. One cut for the door/trunk and one cut for the ignition. .

If the car has a remote trunk release, the trunk can be opened by applying power to the release button harness. Then the trunk cylinder can easily be removed to cut a key for the doors and trunk. The ignition cylinder is relatively easy to just replace as vette7584 stated.

TopNotch of Georgia Fieros was successful in opening a trunk by using a very small drill and drilling into the cylinder key slot. That allowed the tumblers and springs to come out, then the cylinder would turn.
sourmash FEB 05, 09:22 AM
The trunk lock comes off easy. I took mine to have body keys cut. Was told by the experienced shop they had to drill the trunk lock due to design and to get a door lock if I could instead because it could be disassembled for the process, which was only $15. I think I did that and never got it back in.
theogre FEB 05, 10:34 AM
No keys?
Make very sure the tittle matches VIN on the car in two or more spots. Windshield, RPO label near Brake MC, etc.
Starting in 87 have VIN labels on most body panels.

Many have been burn by ____ saying no keys and tittle won't match VIN, or match only windshield rivet on tag that often switched, but buyers don't look for this problem.

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fierofool FEB 05, 03:38 PM
There's also a VIN tag attached to an underdash structure. Accessible by removing the driver's side front speaker.
hnthomps FEB 05, 08:15 PM
I have tried the VIN generated key number approach and had little or no decent luck because most of the dealer databases do not go back that far (according to the dealer). I went to an an
individual that had the old database and he cut me a key for $10. However, it did not fit the lock cylinder.

The VIN only works for key generation if the original lock cylinders are still in place. Due to the age of our cars, a fair portion of the lock cylinders are likely to be replacements.

Nelson
85 SE VIN 9 FEB 05, 10:39 PM
New lock cylinders and keys are readily available. It's no walk in the park, but you can install them. You can also get a rebuilt column or have yours rebuilt, but either way involves removing the entire column and shipping it..
Notglitchd FEB 07, 05:55 PM
Wow you guys are awesome I'm so happy to see so many responses. The reason I ask is because we don't even know if the car is locked or unlocked so we wanted ease for 2 reasons

1. Towing the car if we cant even get in it

2. As most of you pointed out the dealers are 50/50 with keys and it is possible one has been replaced prior

My plan is to buy a new cylinder(s) and just drill out the doors and redo the ignition my cost is about 20$ for the cylinders with keys ready to install

I appreciate the information about the vin checking though sorry quoting isn't easy my cell phone is hit and miss with the text boxes .

Thank you everyone

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Mickey_Moose FEB 07, 06:06 PM
I once lost my key and needed new one cut - the lock smith just removed the cylinder and got a number off of it and cut a new key.

Now this was for the ignition, not sure if the same applies to door keys (wasn't worried about the door key at the time as I had a spare at home) - but the door cylinders are a pain to get at easily to remove, but any locksmith should be able to get into the Fiero without a key.

BUT - as mentioned above, the 84 is an odd ball with it's wiring and stuff. I would look for a newer car as a project. Unless this one is almost free and has zero rust.

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fierofool FEB 07, 07:08 PM
I am sitting here at my desk with a set of new door locks and ignition cylinder. All are OEM GM. Both boxes are marked for Fiero. None of the cylinders have any codes visible on them. Not around the barrel, or on the end. The only code is in the knockout in the head of the key. This is where GM traditionally put the lock code.
Notglitchd FEB 07, 11:42 PM

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Originally posted by Mickey_Moose:

I once lost my key and needed new one cut - the lock smith just removed the cylinder and got a number off of it and cut a new key.

Now this was for the ignition, not sure if the same applies to door keys (wasn't worried about the door key at the time as I had a spare at home) - but the door cylinders are a pain to get at easily to remove, but any locksmith should be able to get into the Fiero without a key.

BUT - as mentioned above, the 84 is an odd ball with it's wiring and stuff. I would look for a newer car as a project. Unless this one is almost free and has zero rust.




The car is 100% free that is my one issue though we don't know the exact year. I'd rather not pay a locksmith only because I have fair mechanical knowledge and the time involved wouldnt be an issue it will likely sit unfortunately since I need some maintenance items on my honda