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| Opinions on the Best Axles and Axle Seals on a Stock 2.8 4-speed? (Page 2/3) |
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olejoedad
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JUN 03, 06:53 AM
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Cardone axles are remanned from GM parts.
The are as strong or stronger than new GM units.
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USMUCL
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JUN 17, 10:30 AM
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Bought the AC Delco Seal -- check!
So, I decided to buy both the Carquest NEW axle, and the Cardone REMANUFACTURED axle, knowing I'd return the one I don't use. The one of the LEFT IS CARQUEST (box says the manufacturer is "Tough One"), and the RIGHT IS CARDONE.
Differences:
1. The Carquest axle just looks new.
2. The Carquest axle has cheap looking boots, while the Cardone's boots look like the OEM
3. The Cardone axle doesn't have the 3 lobe end on the inner side like both the Carquest and the OEM. Is that an issue?
4. The Carquest axle is about 1/2" longer than the Cardone. Not sure if that makes one of them the wrong size, or if it doesn't matter?
My thought is use the Cardone, if nothing else cause of what Olejoedad recommends. I take pause because the inner side doesn't look like OEM.
What say the crowd?
 [This message has been edited by USMUCL (edited 06-17-2017).]
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olejoedad
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JUN 17, 11:10 AM
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Can you measure axle diameter on both units and report back?
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USMUCL
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JUN 17, 12:45 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
Can you measure axle diameter on both units and report back? |
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I don't have the tool to do it exactly. But, using a tape measure at the very center of each axle, they appear the same diameter -- between 1-1/16" and 1-1/8th"
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Larryinkc
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JUN 17, 03:16 PM
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USMUCL
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JUN 17, 03:28 PM
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At this point, the only decision is the Cardone or the Carquest ....
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olejoedad
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JUN 17, 07:25 PM
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Ok, diameter is good. I have seen a few OEM manual transmission axles that have the smooth inner tripot, but they are not common. I think I would go with the 3 lobed tripot axle......
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theogre
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JUN 17, 07:44 PM
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Note: Axle length are measured w/ inner CV compressed. Have help to measure.
Compare one you have w/ both above before you install.
Why? Many computers have wrong PN or Box w/ right PN can have wrong axle.
Too short and you wreck the inner.
Too long and you can't install or can wreck the transmission.
New smooth boots seems to last longer then old w/ sharp angels.
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USMUCL
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JUN 17, 08:19 PM
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So, between oledadjoe's advice on the 3-lobe and Ogre's on the boot, it is looking like the Carquest axle might be the winner ... if it is the right length.
Reference the length, is there a certain amount of wiggle room that might make either okay, or does it need to be exact?
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theogre
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JUN 18, 01:53 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by USMUCL:
So, between oledadjoe's advice on the 3-lobe and Ogre's on the boot, it is looking like the Carquest axle might be the winner ... if it is the right length.
Reference the length, is there a certain amount of wiggle room that might make either okay, or does it need to be exact? |
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Exact is best but may not be a simple overall length when switching designs. Use OE axle side by side to see everything matching bearing points etc.
Inner CV only work in ~ 1/2 to maybe 3/4 of an inch.
Too long and ICV can bind at best.
Too short and car may move in a straight line but Loads in a turn and the joint can fail and cause big problems when axle beats everything in reach or bind in the cradle etc.
You never want the axle nut to pull the axle and stretch the inner boot.
Watch ICV when compressed for measuring. You don't watch to see that in the car either.
Boot should look close to ~ same as above, a little compressed when car is on level ground.
Remember:
Wheel move in/out and up/down when you hit a bump etc. (In/out is Part of "bump steer" issue.)
Engine and trans moves some in a turn as result of lateral G load. (Bad motor/trans mounts can wreck CVs too.)
Inner CV is made to take these.
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