The Official "GMC INDY HAULER" build thread (Page 15/26) motoracer838 NOV 29, 12:18 PM Update time, After doing a bunch of research and talking to the Colorado emissions tech center (these are the people that approve swaps before you can get the truck smog tested), I have decided that the LT-1 will go into another project that I have coming up.(frankly the LT-1 was going to be a big PITA and the tbi 350 will be plenty of engine for the Hauler) I will be using a tbi 350 in the Hauler, here's what it'll take to wire it. 1 ecm and chip out of a '95 Suburban with a tbi 350 and a 4L60e 2 delete 3 pins at the ecm connector that were used on the vortec 4.3 and not on the tbi 350 3 reuse 2 of wires at other locations on the ecm for circuits needed for the tbi 350 4 change a couple of plugs for things like the iac and tps, shorten some wires and lengthen some This will be the easiest fuel injection swap I've ever done!!! Usualy the swaps I do involve basicly building a harness form scratch like I have coming up on the Grin Reaper. I currently have the engine dissasembled and will be doing a stock rebuild on it then the fun starts, this isn't my first V-8 S-10, I built a p-u back in the early '90's. It had an 84 Corvette crossfire 350 and a 700r4 run by a latter tbi ecm, a very fun truck. performance wise, I've always felt that the 2 V-8 Dakota's that I've had since don't stand up. Cheers Beers n Gearz. Joe motoracer838 JAN 10, 10:23 PM Update time, I found the 16" T/A wheels I wanted, I just need to get them cleaned up and paint the centers white, and mount tires, probably Nitto 450's, I've used these on my Dakota R/T in the past and have found them to be a very good tire for the price. today I listed the boat anchor (did I just say that?) I mean the 4.3 Vortec on Craigs list and sold it in less than three hours!!! I really would have loved to blow up that pos of an engine, but I'll take the money and not have to get rid of the scrap!!! I'll be starting on disassembly later this week, as soon as I get a usb cable for my camera, I'll start posting some pics. Cheer Beers n Gearz. Joe motoracer838 JAN 24, 09:18 PM quote Originally posted by Greg Z: body man swears that he can make the 84 grille work without changing the radiator support. i don't believe him but we'll see. no, i'm still debating the wheels. the LMC catolog does not offer parts for the blazer unless it is a part that cross-references with the pick-up. You were right to not believe him!!! wait 'till I post pics of how he buchered the core support, the headlights were held in with drywall screws, this gave no provision for adjusting the headlights. (no wonder they were shooting at the tree tops) A lot is happening now, the 4.3 is out (now I remember why I used to remove the front clip when I was working on my old V8 S-10 p-u) and gone, (good riddance), I'm also working the brakes and suspension, one of the cool things I'm doing is adapting C-4 Corvette front spindles to the truck, it's going to take some work but I get a couple of things out of the conversion, bigger front brakes (the S-10's suffer from the same problem that the Fiero's do, marginal brakes and it becomes an issue when you add power) and a two inch drop because the axle location is two inches higher in the Corvette spindle and it gets leftover parts off of my shelf's. You might be a king or a little street sweeper, but sooner or latter you'll dance with the reaper. Joe motoracer838 JAN 30, 11:50 PM I've been promising pics, here we go! This, is what happens when you let a hillbilly with a cutoff wheel modify your car, he didn't even bother to shoot a little spray paint to keep it from rusting!!! not only was the headlight held in with drywall screws, it was also upside down. I've spent the morning at the wrecking yard, got a replacement core support and a really nice pair of power mirrors. old new. While I'm working on the swap I'm also modifying the suspension and brakes, here's what I'm working on, adapting Corvette spindles, and brakes, one of the side benifits is a two inch drop because the axle location is 2 inches higher in the Corvette spindle, above is the stock, and the Corvette spindle. That's all for now. Cheers Beers n Gearz. Joe motoracer838 JAN 31, 12:12 AM quote Originally posted by Greg Z: well, its looks like i need a painter. i took it back to him right away and pointed out the obvious 2 or 3 weeks ago. i'm thinking a couple of days or so and he will have it fixed. it was a monday now that i think about it and i said "just please have it done by friday" he said no prob.. needless to say it wasn't done and every time i called it was excuse after excuse. today i went but before i got out of the car i removed all accessories off of me(watch, keys,sunglassses, phone, etc). i went straight to the truck and looked it over. there had definitly been work done on most of the area's but it still looked like CRAP! his co-painter came over and said it was done, and i said, yea right. hedlights not touched(still pointed down even though truck never been wrecked) hood still down i can see gray has been painted inside the cracks but there is still white on very edge of fender all the way around. wheelwells barely started but not complted. paint sprayed around quarter glasses but still looks like CRAP. He starts to walk away and says briggs will have to take care of this. that moment briggs comes over and i say surely the trucks not done, he says it is, whats wrong? ok, for starters look at the headlamps and i mention to him the trucks never been wrecked and he starts talking about how much time he has in the truck and such. so i pipe in, what the hell does that have to do with anything, ITS NOT DONE RIGHT! few more things were said and then we were nose to nose bowed up. neither wanted the ramifications of swing first so thats pretty much where it ended. i'm thinking i'm on his property, deep in the country, and they have 3 generations of briggs there, that wouldn't help me when the cops come. he starts screaming i better get my truck of his property or he'll charge 14.00 a day. he says this a few times like he has me by the balls or something. i'm like well then give my my keys, i get them and drive off leaving my porsche there and his mouth drops. i drive accross the highway to my buds business and get a ride back, and thats that! sorry for the language and the rambling. pics coming later. Greg, given the level of the hack job done on the truck, I was wondering if you heard dueling banjos coming from the nearby woods back when you were at Briggs's place??? Joe IVANNATINKLE JAN 31, 12:15 AM quote Originally posted by DeLorean00: Cant wait to see the finished product! up for the S10 anybody.... is that an s10? sorry photo from before my time im only 19 lol motoracer838 JAN 31, 10:19 AM quote Originally posted by IVANNATINKLE: up for the S10 anybody.... is that an s10? sorry photo from before my time im only 19 lol The support trucks were GMC S-15's, S-10's with different badges. When Greg started the project, he was trying to build an accurate looking replica, since this is going to be my three season daily driver, I'm going a little more freestyle with it, giving it a hot rod twist. Joe motoracer838 FEB 07, 08:02 PM Ladies & Gentleman, I present a preview of the Indy Hauler in all it's reborn badass hotness!!! And this is the billet grill insert. This gives me a new problem, with as cool as the truck looks now, the paint looks all that much more hidieous, words can't describe how awful this paint job really is!!! The thing looks like it was masked by a blind man sleepwalking, and shot in a sandstorm!!! It's truly that bad. I'm starting to think that I may have to do something about the paint before I put it on the road. The darkest hour, never comes at night. Joe motoracer838 FEB 08, 03:52 PM It seems that I have a decision to make, with as cool as the truck is turning out, it's crying out for something cooler than the TBI 350 that I 'm planing on. (nevermind that I have the engine, the rebuild kit and it's the easiest of the choices to wire up. I do have another use for this engine.). Here are the other choices. 1 98 Vortec 350, pros, I can get it at a good price, good power. cons I have to spend my time to pull it out of a 4X4 p-u, more work to wire and integrate into the truck and a fuel injection system that has some relability issues. ( to the point that gm came up with a retrofit system that does away with the cmpi injector and spider assembly and replaces it with 8 tiny injectors that fit in the manifold where the popet valves went.) If I go with this engine, I'll add a Ramjet intake to get away from the stock Vortec intake and to enhance performance and the cool factor$$$ 2 LS-1 350, pros, I have it, even more power and weighs about what the 4.3 did and I'll probably spend less than I will on the vortec. cons, it's damaged (kicked a rod out the block, it was like that when I got it. The block will need to be welded), about the same amount of work to wire as the Vortec, I don't have any brackets for the accsesories, even though it has a cool factor, I don't think it looks as good as a Ramjet equiped Vortec. In spite of the looks, I'm leaning towards the LS-1, what do you guys think??? Oh btw both of these engines will have me dropping the tank to upgrade the fuel pump. (something I needed to do to fix the fuel sending unit anyway) While I'm at it, I might as well. Joe fieroguru FEB 08, 04:07 PM I am partial to the RamJet... because It has been my intake of choice since 2005 and I have one currently sitting on the shelf waiting for a new engine to go onto. If you need to pass emissions, the Ramjet does not have an EGR provision, but some of the solutions being kicked around are using an EGR plate right behind the throttle body (like from a N*) or welding on an EGR boss on the side (like TPIS now does for the miniram). You can run the Ramjet intake with the stock vortec ecm, but it will shut off at 5700-5800 rpm and there is no known way past this (most swap to the 411 ecm to get past this issue). Lastly, you will need to slightly modify the driver side fuel rail to clear the vortec crab dist (or go coil on plug). But, if I was in your shoes, I would just go LSx and not look back. The 6.2L with DOD would be very nice!