still overheating and being weird (Page 12/16)
cartercarbaficionado AUG 09, 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:


Carter, please don't leave. You're not the only one who finds the old man exceptionally annoying. You'll get your Fiero running awesome, and we'll help you.



oh no I'm not leaving. just wanted them to leave for a bit since sometimes I just can't do jokes. this week being one of them (been swamped with work and dragging dead cars out of ditches like my buddies 95 gtp that decided to hit a guard rail at 60 mph after it blew out a steer tire and dug into the asphalt. luckily hes ok and the car made it out with just a messed up front bumperl) just a super long week honestly.
I think I got most of the issues with the cooling system figured out but I'm fairly sure that the water pump (less than a year old) is having a slipping impeller which would make sense considering to make it not leak I had to rtv with an entire tube around it. says alot about the quality of that autozone part that didn't even come with the timing cover clamp. I will be making one for the other 88 formula to do its water pump and rebuilding its alternator and suspension. it'll get its own post in a few weeks unless the deal falls through
cartercarbaficionado AUG 09, 10:17 PM

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Originally posted by Jason88Notchie:


Carter, I meant no offense. Just adding some humor to your "interesting" issues with that car.


hey its ok. just having a long week like I said in my response to 82 ta. I do have the entire car apart right now since some wiring was giving me grief and I'm done with not having turn signals and that kinda snowballed into "let's paint the interior panels and repair the broken one" "hey let's paint the trim the right color and take the drywall screws that came with the car out of the door trim and fill the holes" so I'll post a picture once I get the new front bumper repaired and installed (88 coupe front that was complete just split in a few places thanks to a member named bo who is local to me and has located some hard to get parts for my gt)
jelly2m8 AUG 10, 04:15 AM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:


This I don't really understand. At 120+ miles an hour, my 87 Fiero SE / V6 (aero style) was rock solid on the road. Matter of fact, the car felt more planted when it was pegged at 120 miles an hour than it did at 60.

I also never had any issues with my headlights either... but I know that's a common problem. My Fiero's suspension wasn't modified at the time, pretty stock.





I'm with you there man, I do 130 Mph fairly regularly as there is a stretch on my local road that allows that and not once has the car felt like it was lifting, never has my headlight doors popped up. Perhaps i need to increase the PCM's speed limiter.....

Last year me and a fellow PFF member let our L67's run, when we stopped he asked how fast we went, I replied ' I pussied out and put a 130MPH limiter on mine '. Nether of us felt out of control, his wife was calm.

I am wondering if bad alignments are the cause of people finding their Fiero's 'light', 'lifting' at speed?

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Yellow-88 AUG 10, 10:43 AM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:


Carter, please don't leave. You're not the only one who finds the old man exceptionally annoying. You'll get your Fiero running awesome, and we'll help you.




It's interesting that you find me annoying.
Do you find Carter to be as much fun as I do? He says things in a amusing way. He has a fascinating sense of humor.
Because he's young and inexperienced and hasn't yet learned the intricacies of problem solving, that's where I try to help.
If you find that annoying, it says something about you.

Carter, please don't give up. I like your enthusiasm.
82-T/A [At Work] AUG 10, 11:07 AM

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Originally posted by cartercarbaficionado:
I think I got most of the issues with the cooling system figured out but I'm fairly sure that the water pump (less than a year old) is having a slipping impeller which would make sense considering to make it not leak I had to rtv with an entire tube around it. says alot about the quality of that autozone part that didn't even come with the timing cover clamp. I will be making one for the other 88 formula to do its water pump and rebuilding its alternator and suspension. it'll get its own post in a few weeks unless the deal falls through



I can't remember if this was discussed earlier, but do you know by chance if that water pump has a plastic impeller? There were several "performance" water pumps for the V6 that were sold in the late 90s that ended up destroying many engines. Holley even sold a water pump back in the day, billed it as a performance waterpump, and the impeller would break free from the shaft, causing the entire thing to overheat like crazy.



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Originally posted by Yellow-88:
It's interesting that you find me annoying.
Do you find Carter to be as much fun as I do? He says things in a amusing way. He has a fascinating sense of humor.
Because he's young and inexperienced and hasn't yet learned the intricacies of problem solving, that's where I try to help.
If you find that annoying, it says something about you.




Respectfully, you approach every conversation as though you're playing nationals, only to find out that quite often you're only at the local JV level. Case in point, you've come into several conversations talking about being an engineer and a research scientist, making the assumption that others are not. The preponderance of the people who routinely post on this site are very accomplished with advanced degrees, including PhDs, quite a few of them millionaires. This attitude wouldn't be an issue, and no one would care, but there's an air of condescension that comes with your constantly addressing everyone as "young and inexperienced" ... compared to you. It doesn't bother me personally, but I'm constantly rolling my eyes whenever I see you consistently address everyone as young and inexperienced. Where I work, one of the young and inexperienced people on my team is a foremost lead on Knowledge Graphs and Graph Neural Network development. The kid is barely 20, and operates with the professionalism and wisdom of someone with 20+ years of experience in artificial intelligence. Being older does not automatically give you license to constantly address everyone under the age of 60 as "young and inexperienced." You are not the highlander.

To that point, I don't want you to leave either. You have a lot of experience in suspension design and geometry that adds value to many discussions here... as I'm sure in other aspects as well. I just ask, as a fellow forum member, that you try to humble yourself... we are not all hanging on your next word.



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Originally posted by jelly2m8:I'm with you there man, I do 130 Mph fairly regularly as there is a stretch on my local road that allows that and not once has the car felt like it was lifting, never has my headlight doors popped up. Perhaps i need to increase the PCM's speed limiter.....

Last year me and a fellow PFF member let our L67's run, when we stopped he asked how fast we went, I replied ' I pussied out and put a 130MPH limiter on mine '. Nether of us felt out of control, his wife was calm.

I am wondering if bad alignments are the cause of people finding their Fiero's 'light', 'lifting' at speed?




Yeah, this is the second time I've heard this, but like you, I've never experienced it before in any Fiero. I was starting to think if I was fooling myself. But yeah... the faster I would go, the more planted the suspension would get. It would be downright rigid... almost like the wedge-shape of the car was compressing the car down to the road (as in, 1979 Lotus John Player Special / F1 style). My Fiero was in good repair, no rust, and had all the rubber flaps as well.
Jason88Notchie AUG 10, 12:22 PM
Didn't mean to start a **** show Carter. I thought I'd toss out a funny screen play on your situation. Just trying to keep things on the light side. I thought you'd find it funny too since it's so outrageous. But it is what it is. CAN'T WE ALL GET ALONG?? sniff sniff.

And my screen play write up is based on a true story. Tangerine Nightmare is effing HAUNTED!

Now let's try to solve your little problem. Without harming anymore Fieros.
Yellow-88 AUG 10, 01:10 PM

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Originally posted by cartercarbaficionado:

oh no I'm not leaving. just wanted them to leave for a bit since sometimes I just can't do jokes. this week being one of them (been swamped with work and dragging dead cars out of ditches like my buddies 95 gtp that decided to hit a guard rail at 60 mph after it blew out a steer tire and dug into the asphalt. luckily hes ok and the car made it out with just a messed up front bumperl) just a super long week honestly.
I think I got most of the issues with the cooling system figured out but I'm fairly sure that the water pump (less than a year old) is having a slipping impeller which would make sense considering to make it not leak I had to rtv with an entire tube around it. says alot about the quality of that autozone part that didn't even come with the timing cover clamp. I will be making one for the other 88 formula to do its water pump and rebuilding its alternator and suspension. it'll get its own post in a few weeks unless the deal falls through



A slipping impeller doesn't cause a leak, just poor circulation.
Where was the leak? An entire tube of RTV?
What is a timing cover clamp?
cartercarbaficionado AUG 10, 03:58 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Yeah, this is the second time I've heard this, but like you, I've never experienced it before in any Fiero. I was starting to think if I was fooling myself. But yeah... the faster I would go, the more planted the suspension would get. It would be downright rigid... almost like the wedge-shape of the car was compressing the car down to the road (as in, 1979 Lotus John Player Special / F1 style). My Fiero was in good repair, no rust, and had all the rubber flaps as well.


excuse the mis quote here. won't let me select the right section of text for some reason.
anyways no its no a plastic one just a really Chinesium duralast model. last duralast I put in a car decided to launch its pulley off and into the radiator on my blazer so I'm not too trusting of the brand but it's what I could get at the time
and yeah the aero front is actually really stable st over 140 mph. I've had this 88 screaming down the highway trying to make it to a friend who rolled their focus and got there before the ambulance was able to from a few towns over. Definitely need to get more comfortable sliding the rear out once I get my other working
cartercarbaficionado AUG 10, 04:01 PM

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Originally posted by Yellow-88:


A slipping impeller doesn't cause a leak, just poor circulation.
Where was the leak? An entire tube of RTV?
What is a timing cover clamp?


leak was on the gasket and from the plug in the pump body.
and I didn't say the impeller was causing the leak just that I'm fairly sure it's not circulating water properly based on how removing the thermostat immediately caused a massive change which in my personal experience will help out a slipping impeller
oh and the clamp is for holding the timing cover down since they like to separate from the block when the pump is removed apparently but I've never experienced it

[This message has been edited by cartercarbaficionado (edited 08-10-2024).]

cartercarbaficionado AUG 10, 04:13 PM

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Originally posted by Jason88Notchie:

Didn't mean to start a **** show Carter. I thought I'd toss out a funny screen play on your situation. Just trying to keep things on the light side. I thought you'd find it funny too since it's so outrageous. But it is what it is. CAN'T WE ALL GET ALONG?? sniff sniff.

And my screen play write up is based on a true story. Tangerine Nightmare is effing HAUNTED!

Now let's try to solve your little problem. Without harming anymore Fieros.


haven't harmed any. been restoring 4 of then now actually lol. the 84 that was litterally 2 minutes from being scrapped, the 88 formula and my 87 gt. waiting on the purple ones delivery so I can do it's suspension and a paint job and then that one will be done.
and honestly I can say this about usiel (guy I bought the orange formula from) he can sure put one together but definitely needs to focus on more than getting it running and driving. like electrical work and replacing parts that are on its last leg before selling a vehicle. other than that I love the guy and he's a riot