Getrag transmission problem on low mileage Fiero GT (Page 10/17)
hobbywrench JAN 18, 11:42 PM
The bearing seating area measured: OD 2.360", ID 2.063" , calipers. Very little comes up on Dodge transaxle all live axles. There are several shim kits available at reduced prices , but they are larger than these dimensions and fit solid (3rd member) axles. This thread is getting better and better. I am waiting for MOAR to do his synchro rings.

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Moar JAN 19, 02:36 PM
Hopefully, I never need to replace these synchro rings.
The whole gear cluster needs to be removed for this and almost everything needs to be disassembled.

Hobbywrench has already done this and I think it was not funny...
Moar JAN 19, 03:35 PM
Preparing the ´88 bellhousing (which I will use for the ´86 unit) for final assembling

Installation of the missing oil splash shield:



As you may have already recognized the casting quality of the ´88 bellhousing is quite bad:


At the first glance you may think that there are hundreds of cracks in the casting, but fortunately there are no cracks!

Do you see any cracks now?
(casting errors removed with grinding tools)


Finally my ´88 bellhousing does not look like **** anymore!
(I think the grinding work should be also advantageous for stress distribution)

Shift shaft seal replacement:

It was a pain to remove this collar form the shift shaft with this fu*king cheap China puller which I bought in Germany*:




*) Quite a lot of Germany tools are just rebranded China tools (KRAFT, Mauk, etc.)

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Moar JAN 19, 03:52 PM
Assembling of the ´86 trans with the ´88 bellhousing:

After applying transmission RTV (Alpha Gray from Cobratrans for about $3.-):



Moar JAN 19, 04:14 PM
As the ´86 unit is already finished (besides the paint) I have continued the work on the ´88 unit.

Differential bearing cone replacement with another weak China puller:

Bearing cage removal...


Grooving cone for facilitated removal...


Heating...


And pulling...
(China puller supported in a vice)


A China puller can remove at maximum two cones then you can throw it away!

Pressing on new cones with a strong vice...




FYI:
For reducing press-fit interference I stored the differential in a freezer and the two cones I putted in the kitchen oven together with a Pizza.

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Gall757 JAN 19, 04:28 PM
These are really good photos....a great addition to PFF, Thank you. I hope we don't loose them over time.
hobbywrench JAN 19, 07:19 PM
Moar, Great work and pictures. That "crazing" or whatever it can be called is widespread in aluminum castings I think. I took my riding lawnmower engine apart and found the same condition on the inside of the oil pan. It's hard not to see it as a defect, but the pan casting has been good for years now. Nevertheless, I wish we all had easy access to metal services such as magnaflux and dye penetrant (for aluminum). It would not hurt at all to routinely batch the used parts and have them inspected (for cracks). The magnaflux service is cheap. The penetrant (Zyglo) not so cheap and yet you can get home hobbyist kits for ? $50. Most of latter use a "black lite" which can also be obtained fairly cheaply, I think. I have a suitable black light flashlite which is used to inspect the rug for cat pee. I am awarding you a special prize in form of my 10 year old writeup on the synchro ring installation. With that in hand you will never need to replace them (superstitious). Coming in mail
sardonyx247 JAN 24, 01:24 AM
OK it is a 1998 Dodge Stratus, for the diff shims.
Moar JAN 24, 03:23 AM
sardonyx247, thank you very much for this valuable information.

But do you also know the transmission type?
I would assume the New Venture (Getrag) NV-T350 / F5MC1, right?

NV-T350 manual:
ftp://oskin.ru/pub/chrysler-dodge/manuals/Service Manuals/Transaxle_NV_T350/Трансмиссия_NV_T350.pdf

Obviously the NV-T350 is very similar to the Getrag MG-282!

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hobbywrench FEB 04, 02:44 PM
Taking sardonyx clue and some searching I found a site with Stratus diff shims. factorychryslerparts.com shows a series of pn 05222345 and up , 24 sizes starting .5 mm out to 1.46 mm, with pricing from $2 up. Located at a GA dealer. Moar may have already found this source. Hope this is accurate for the Getrag 282. Someone let us know if good.