RON HART: Epstein Files Could Be Released — Did The System Work? (Page 1/2)
Raydar NOV 19, 12:40 PM

Biden had four years to release the “Epstein Files.” Trump campaigned on releasing them, but when Israel visited and the CIA showed him things, he changed his tune.

Democracy worked well. Congress almost unanimously voted to release the “files,” whatever they now include after five years of purging by both parties and Epstein’s death. Who says Dems and Republicans can’t work together?

Trump is now trying to act like it was his idea. First, he favored releasing the files, then he was against it. Then he tried to dissuade GOP Congresspeople from forcing this issue, so he sent Rep. Lauren Boebert (who was pressing for the documents’ release) to the “SCIF” to see secret Epstein documents. Mayhem broke out when all the men there tried to sit next to her.

Dems leak everything. If anything major existed that hurt Trump, Biden/Harris would have leaked it by now. No one thinks their sense of fair play would preclude that. Until now, the Epstein client list was, and remains, the only secure document in Washington, D.C.

Trying to close the FBI files on this forever, the Feds concluded that Epstein did commit suicide in his prison cell. A man who evaded the law and prison for 40 years fell prey to bed sheets. If you think you were surprised by his prison “suicide,” imagine how Epstein felt.

So, no release. Just like the government, they kept folks hanging. One of the main accusers, Virginia Giuffre, committed suicide after exonerating Trump. Feds said that her suicide was a result of her shooting herself from a passing car. It remains unclear how she met the Clintons.

Here is the summary. Trump knew Epstein like most rich New York/Palm Beach socialites did. But in 2007 Trump banned him from Mar-a-Lago, and turned in the pedophile (for which he was convicted). They then hated each other. Epstein went on to help Democrats, including texting a Congresswoman while she questioned Trump’s attorney, Michael Cohen, under oath in hearings.

There won’t be too many surprises in the “list.” Most were coastal liberal elites. Bill Clinton, about the only Baptist on the list, was a frequent flyer to the island on Epstein’s “Lolita Express.” Wow, just when you think you know a guy.

Bill and Hillary won’t be affected. With all their capers, they cannot get divorced anyway and risk losing spousal immunity.

Bill Clinton did write in Epstein’s 50th birthday book that he admired Jeff’s “childlike curiosity.” Comedy teaches us that when jokes write themselves, you just get out of the way and let it go.

Epstein was clearly an asset of the CIA and/or Mossad. When Epstein got caught red-handed in Palm Beach doing this years before the news picked up on his island, he was given a sweetheart plea deal. The prosecutor who went after him said he got a call from Washington, D.C. and was told that Epstein “‘was theirs and to let him go.”

No doubt, Jeffrey Epstein was being protected by our government. The partisan Department of Justice Southern District of New York and the Biden administration, and three Democrat appointed judges had years after Epstein was arrested the men who abused these underaged girls. During that time, those liberals arrested more Republican squirrels than men who had sex with underage girls through Epstein.

Almost all the frequent flyers on the “Lolita Express” jet to his island were big Democrats, like Bill Gates and Stephen Hawking, et al. And just as an aside, if you are one of the girls who said she got molested by Stephen Hawking, that’s pretty much on you.

Most of the billionaire Dems who were enticed by all this were nerds growing up. Most of these men did not have a high school girlfriend until they were 50.

Ghislaine Maxwell remains in federal prison, having trafficked underaged girls to apparently no one. She sits there, with all her information on government figures, with cameras on her 24/7. I’d be really nervous when the prison guard comes in and turns the cameras off.

Let’s then move on to real issues. Hollywood libs are mad at Trump for securing our southern border and blowing up drug boats destined for the U.S. Yes, eggs, gas and food prices have come down under Trump, but the Dems complain that cocaine prices have doubled since Hunter Biden was president.

A libertarian op-ed humorist and award-winning author, Ron does commentary on radio and TV. He can be contacted at Ron@RonaldHart.com or @RonaldHart on Twitter.

Original article at Link.
Patrick NOV 19, 03:54 PM

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Originally posted by Raydar:

Trump is now trying to act like it was his idea. First, he favored releasing the files, then he was against it.



Despite the most recent flip-flop by Trump (all done for show), I suspect Trump still hasn't given up trying to keep these files under wraps. Between him and the DOJ, there'll be shenanigans occurring. Bank on it.
Raydar NOV 19, 04:44 PM

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Originally posted by Patrick:

Despite the most recent flip-flop by Trump (all done for show), I suspect Trump still hasn't given up trying to keep these files under wraps. Between him and the DOJ, there'll be shenanigans occurring. Bank on it.



If there was something there, that would have incriminated Trump, Brandon and Company would have already leaked it. Bank on it.
Patrick NOV 19, 05:07 PM

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Originally posted by Raydar:

If there was something there, that would have incriminated Trump, Brandon and Company would have already leaked it.



Not necessarily. As has been previously mentioned in P&R threads, Democrats in the past were probably trying to protect their own people due to their interactions with Epstein, and therefore were willing to turn a blind eye to Trump's involvement. However, times have changed, and now it's Trump who has a lot more to lose.

I hope the whole works of them (from both sides of the aisle) get exposed at some point... despite Trump's desperate attempts to quell the interest.
Patrick NOV 19, 06:35 PM
Donald Trump is a great great man.


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From Here:

In 2016, a woman using the pseudonym Katie Johnson filed a lawsuit alleging that Jeffrey Epstein trafficked her and Donald Trump raped her when she was a 13-year-old child.

The scenes that unfolded today at the U.S. Capitol dramatize the importance of listening to survivors’ voices. In that spirit, I am posting below the full transcript of Katie Johnson’s testimony.

Warning: it is extremely graphic and disturbing.

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I came to this interview of my free will. No, there was nothing promised to me for doing this interview. Yes, everything that I say in this interview will be the truth.

I met Donald Trump at some parties that I was working for Mr. Jeffrey Epstein. There were about three or four times that I had encounters with Donald Trump. I was 13. The first time that I met Donald Trump was at a party at Jeffrey Epstein’s mansion. There was an orgy going on and he was kind of watching off in the distance.

He basically asked if I could come over and give him a hand job. At first I wasn’t very comfortable with it. This was my first party and I didn’t think that that was my responsibility. But my recruiter told me that I needed to do it. So I agreed to it and then he, you know, I began to—sorry this is a little difficult. But before I gave him a hand job he kind of slapped my hand away and said, “You need to use a glove.” The recruiter ran over and handed me a glove and said, “No one touches Mr. Trump’s penis without a glove.” So I needed to use a glove. I gave him a hand job and then immediately after he had an orgasm he left and I didn’t see him again at that party…

I originally came to New York trying to be a model and in my travels I met a girl named Tiffany there who was very interested in me and said that that’s what she did is that she helped girls, you know, get what they wanted. She could help me get into modeling, that she knew a lot of people that were higher-ups and that it would be no problem. And so that’s why, you know, I would just basically have to come model at a couple of events and meet some people, there would be no sweat.

So of course I went, you know, that sounded like no big deal. And she was recruiting the girls to come to these parties and they all looked, I mean most of them were my age. There were maybe a couple girls that were maybe 14 or 15 but it seemed to me like we were all very young.

Jeffrey Epstein knew that I was 13 years old. When he interviewed me, he asked me to get down to my bra and just my panties and I thought that was weird but, I mean, modeling. Maybe it was something about my figure. He asked me to give him a massage. He asked me my age, I told him that I was thirteen, I told him why I was there, and he basically said, “Well, you’ll do, you know, I’m sure that you’ll fit pretty nicely here.” And then he tried to basically slip himself inside of me. And I pushed him away and I said, you know, I’m—because at that point in time I still believed that there were models and then there was the girls that did that. Like I thought there was a separation. So I told him that I wasn’t interested in that but he said that I would do.

And as far as Donald Trump, he knew that I was 13, and I believe that Tiffany told him. He seemed to take a liking to me because I was so young and I was also a virgin. So, I don’t know, he seemed like he wasn’t really into having girls that were liked by the other guys. The whole glove thing—he kind of liked things to be his first, you know, for lack of a better term. He was the one who wanted to get to a girl before everyone else did.

Donald Trump knew that I was 13 because the first night that I was there, Tiffany actually suggested that and she had a whole bunch of different wigs and I expressed interest in them and I always told her that I would love to walk around with blue hair. And so I tried some on and there was a blonde wig that she said that looked great on me. So, I wore that wig and Donald Trump had specifically asked about me because I remind him of his daughter and she said, “Well, she’s 13 as well.” So, he knew the first time that he saw me. He took a liking to me because I looked like his daughter.

The reason I’m coming out now is—when it happened originally, I just wanted to forget about the whole incident. And when I saw that he was running for president, I felt that it was my responsibility to come out and tell our country what kind of man this person is. I don’t think that he should even be the dog catcher, let alone running the greatest country in the world…

The first time that I met Jeffrey Epstein, he did try to force himself inside of me without getting the go-ahead or anything. And then it was probably about the third or fourth party is when he basically forced—it was another massage and it was basically like, it wasn’t sex, but it was, there was penetration. And I told him that I didn’t want that, but he kind of got a little irritated. So, I don’t know, there was something about him that, I guess I kind of held a lot of resentment towards him. By the time that that happened, I already started catching on that maybe I wasn’t there for modeling and maybe I was just getting used for things and I kind of held him responsible.

I did receive money to go to these parties. After every party, I was paid by Mr. Epstein. There wasn’t, out of all the girls that were there with me, most of them were 13, 14. I think the oldest one might have been 16, but just turned 16 and she’d been there for a while…
Second time that I saw Mr. Trump was, same scenario, he was an onlooker at an orgy and Tiffany came over to me and said that Donald Trump had requested that I perform oral sex on him. And never, I’d never done something like that with anybody, so I was a little nervous. So, I walked up to him and he was sitting there very proud-like and I just kind of moved in that direction and he kind of slapped me away and said, “What are you doing? You need to put a condom on.” Like I was some dirty filth or something. Tiffany ran over and handed me a condom and apologized profusely and said that would never happen again. And she looked at me and scolded me basically like a child and said that, “That’s not how: Donald Trump always, anytime anyone touches his penis it needs to have a condom on or a glove. Especially when it comes to performing oral sex.”

So, I apologized and then I performed oral sex on him. And once again, once he was done, he hopped up and that’s the last I saw of him at that party. It’s like once he’s done, he’s out. Some of the things that I noticed that were weird with him: sometimes before the parties he would come over and Jeffrey Epstein and himself would kind of banter back and forth and he was very, Donald Trump was very racist. He said a lot of racist things. There was a lot of comments towards Mr. Epstein about being Jewish and he called him a Jew bastard, said that he was cheap and there were some words I didn’t even understand.

Something about his, you know, the shape of his penis being directly related to his mole or, I mean, I’m not too familiar with the Jewish tradition—but I’m pretty sure that whatever he was saying wasn’t very nice. He also referred to, you know, people of Hispanic origin, he called them Spicks. That was around the first time that the World Trade Center had gotten bombed in the 90s. And he was talking about the towel heads and how we would just be better off if we didn’t let them in and basically got rid of everyone, every single one that was already here. And it made me really uncomfortable, really, really uncomfortable.

He also loved to call Black people n----- and Arabic people he called sand n-----. The only time that he tried to give me some money was our last encounter together, where he acted out a rape fantasy. I was forced to give that money back because Jeffrey Epstein paid us after the party. I don’t even know why he gave it to me, maybe to make me feel more cheap. It was a rape fantasy to him, but I wasn’t playing.

The next thing that Tiffany approached me with was that he had a fantasy where he walked in on his maids, maids basically making out and it was some type of fantasy for him. At that point, I was like, “I don’t want to be involved with anything that has to do with him.” But she’s like, “You are just basically the other one. So, there’s nothing that you will have to do. Just—he’s requesting you to be involved.” So, I reluctantly—I mean, I felt like I didn’t have a choice there, but it was basically, he’s walking in on his two maids, I was one of the maids, I was the white maid. And there was a Spanish girl, Maria, who was the Hispanic maid. And we were making out and he walks in and he gets really angry and threatens to call immigration on Maria if she doesn’t come over and make things right and give him a blow job.

So, while she is over there giving him a blow job, I am supposed to look scared like, “Oh, oh no,” cleaning up things and pretending like I’m trying to go back to my job as a maid. And then he’s being so rude to Maria. I felt so bad for her. It just didn’t seem like a fantasy. It’s the weirdest fantasy as far as that goes. He was threatening, he was threatening to call immigration on her. She wasn’t even near going down to give him, perform oral sex on him before he slapped her away and said, “What are you doing? You know you need to put a condom on.” And she’s trying to say “I’m so sorry.” And he’s like, “You can’t even, I can’t even understand what you’re saying. Just speak English!” He called her derogatory comments. And then he’s like, “You know what, you don’t know what you’re doing. Have her come over and show you how it’s done.” And so I, again, I said that I didn’t—I had to go over there or else he was going to call immigration on Maria. I didn’t know if it was true or not, but he said that if I didn’t show her how to perform oral sex on him, then he was going to call immigration on her and then get rid of us both.

Anything that was in relation to him getting off or being satisfied or happy had to do with him being in power, extreme power. And it was always intimidating when he was like that. You didn’t really know if it was true. If you refused to play along, would he really call immigration on Maria? Would he really get rid of us both? And I didn’t even want to know what that meant. It wasn’t a game.

The one night that I had the blonde wig on, he mentioned that I reminded him of his daughter. And actually the maid’s fantasy, I didn’t have a blonde wig on. I was trying to stay away from blonde wigs at the time. But he actually requested, told Tiffany that that’s what he wanted me to wear. Like he wanted it, and anytime I put it on, anytime I had it on and he’d see me, he would say, “Oh man, you look—” and it wasn’t like a, “Oh, you remind me of my daughter.” It was this sick, evil “You remind me of my daughter.” It was just this weird pleasure, sick smile. Like I don’t even want to know what he was thinking about. I could imagine what he was thinking about.

After the parties would end, we were to report to Mr. Epstein and basically tell him everything that happened, with who, what they liked, what they disliked, if there was any requests, if there was any talk about anything. That’s what we told Mr. Epstein—everything. And then he paid us, and then we got to go home.

The fact that Trump has a chance to be the next president makes me feel disgusting inside. I’ve always been proud to be an American. I think we live in a beautiful country. But I just see him ruining everything. He’s horrible, what he portrays on the outside isn’t even that great, but people don’t even know the half of how evil, how sick and twisted that man is. I have a friend that’s been my friend ever since the school year that I stopped going, the eighth grade. I confided in her, and she knows all about it. She knows everything…

I’m prepared to do whatever it takes to save the country that I believe that we have. I know what he does behind closed doors. I’m willing to sacrifice my life to put our country back in the right—like, going maybe in some type of positive direction. Not even, there’s no right or wrong, but a positive direction. This guy’s not going to take us anywhere positive.

You know, as far as my life changing by coming out with this information, I’ve thought long and hard about whether or not I should. And I’ve gone back and forth. But I think that the American people need to know what kind of man this person is. And if my life changes because of that, then so be it. But the American people need to know what they’re dealing with. If I had the chance to talk to Donald Trump, I would run the other way. I’m scared of him like I’ve never been scared of anything else in my entire life. I can’t explain it to you, but the fear of him even being in a next room, I have a panic attack.

The last encounter that I had with Donald Trump, Tiffany approached me about a rape scene that was supposed to be played out. And I didn’t like the sound of that at all. But Tiffany promised, assured me that it wasn’t going to be—if it was anything I wasn’t comfortable with, we could stop. That she would be right there and that it wouldn’t get out of hand. And that it was just a fantasy, like it wasn’t really going to happen. And so I told her that I would. I mean Tiffany was always nice to me. I trusted her, or else I wouldn’t have always done what she asked me to.

But she was there and he came in and I was basically tied to a bed with pantyhose. And they were so tight it hurt to even lay there. And I tried to say something and he was just “Shut up! Shut up, ***** !” He was being really, really rough.

It just didn’t seem like a fantasy. And I started to get scared and he was basically like ripping my clothes off. And I got freaked out. I told him that I didn’t want to do this. I screamed over for Tiffany and she was like, “Mr. Trump, she’s only, she’s not—this is scaring her.” And he’s like, “Oh you shut up too.” He just turned into this animal. It was like a completely different, completely different person. It was like everyone in the room was scared of him. And I couldn’t do anything about it.

He ripped off all my clothes and he started to basically have sex with me and I was screaming. I’d never had sex before, it was my first time and Tiffany was yelling at him too. She was saying I was a virgin and he told us to just shut the **** up and just basically took my virginity while I was crying and telling him to stop and basically begging for him to just stop. And Tiffany didn’t know what else to do either. No one was there to help us, or me. And so, after the fact, he basically finishes. It didn’t take that long at all. But it felt like it was like five and a half hours. It felt like it was an eternity.

I was crying and Tiffany was consoling me and she was apologizing. She told me that she would never put me in that situation again. But he comes over mad because I was crying and he said that I should be thankful that someone like Donald Trump took my virginity. Well, he didn’t say took my virginity. He said, I should be glad that someone like Donald Trump popped my cherry and not some pimply little 14 year old. And I just was like, “What if I get pregnant?” Not even talking to him. I didn’t want to talk to him. I was talking to Tiffany and he said, “Well you’ll get an abortion then, ***** .” And then just walked away. And I told Tiffany I needed to go home. I never went back again.

I guess it’s for you to decide. I don’t have any kids myself because I’m afraid to have kids because who knows what kind of damage they can get into, but if you have a 13-year-old daughter, would you be okay with the person who’s running our country doing that to your little girl? And I just, I don’t know. I just want people to know. I think that I have a faith in our society that we’ll make the right choice. He seemed to be taking great pleasure in dominance and control and the more I screamed, the more I got scared, the more he was enraged with power and it was like he was just charged with it. It was scary.


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olejoedad NOV 19, 07:14 PM
No source?
Patrick NOV 19, 07:39 PM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:

No source?



Who are you asking? There are two articles (both with source links) in this thread so far... by Raydar and myself.

My link includes another link to some background here... She Says Trump Raped Her When She Was a Child

And here is the actual interview that the text above is taken from...

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Raydar NOV 19, 10:08 PM

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Originally posted by Patrick:

Who are you asking? There are two articles (both with source links) in this thread so far... by Raydar and myself.




My article was posted "tongue in cheek". Did you even read it? Or just miss it?

Your source(s)? I don't believe a single word. Strange that she would just show up out of the blue, just now. She a friend of yours? Y'all seem to have a lot in common.

But, as always, I suppose that we shall see. I am hopeful that all of this bullshit can be sorted, and names named, now that "stuff" is getting released.
Of course, I can already hear the whining from the left that "things have been omitted/redacted/overlooked." They're tuning up for it as I type this.
Patrick NOV 19, 11:16 PM

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Originally posted by Raydar:

My article was posted "tongue in cheek". Did you even read it?



Yes, I did read it. My posts added some much needed sustenance to your thread.


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Originally posted by Raydar:

Your source(s)? I don't believe a single word. Strange that she would just show up out of the blue, just now.



How are you in a position to determine the truth or falsehood of any of it... when you obviously didn't bother reading and/or watching what I posted? The interview took place in 2016.
olejoedad NOV 20, 07:58 AM
Such a bombshell!
One would expect that this would have been all over the news!
Perhaps even live coverage of the trial!