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Mike in Sydney AUG 06, 07:43 AM
Can someone explain to me how Don can promise savings of 500, 800, 1000, 1500 percent on prescription drug prices? By my calculations, that would mean the drug manufacturer would give the consumer the drug for free and also pay them 4,7, 9, 14 times the cost of the drug.
cliffw AUG 06, 09:29 AM

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Originally posted by Mike in Sydney:
Can someone explain to me how Don can promise savings of 500, 800, 1000, 1500 percent on prescription drug prices? By my calculations, that would mean the drug manufacturer would give the consumer the drug for free and also pay them 4,7, 9, 14 times the cost of the drug.



There it is !

Percentages. Also called per centum. one one-hundredth part; 1/100.

Focus on the "part".
82-T/A [At Work] AUG 06, 11:27 AM

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Originally posted by Mike in Sydney:

Can someone explain to me how Don can promise savings of 500, 800, 1000, 1500 percent on prescription drug prices? By my calculations, that would mean the drug manufacturer would give the consumer the drug for free and also pay them 4,7, 9, 14 times the cost of the drug.




It depends entirely on which drugs are being discussed. President Trump often speaks in generalities, which Democrats often use to argue the semantics for. There is a massive trade deficit as it applies to pharmaceuticals, which you can read about here: https://www.fool.com/resear...cal-tariffs-imports/

The tariffs go both ways in many cases, but more often than not, we're having to import more than we export... though that is improving. The FDA also plays a large part in some of the prices that we're paying, which I would honestly say has a lot to do with lobbying from the pharmaceutical companies, rather than anything specifically political.

Of course, some drugs you cannot get a generic because the patent-period has not run out, but... I'm glad he's working on this... it's a pretty big expense since we're such an unhealthy and obese nation.
Patrick AUG 06, 04:30 PM

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Originally posted by Mike in Sydney:

Can someone explain to me how Don can promise savings of 500, 800, 1000, 1500 percent on prescription drug prices?



Mike, you got your answer from two of Trump's biggest supporters at this forum. One member appears to have the same math skills as Trump ... while the other has the same deflection skills as Trump, totally ignoring your actual question and going off in an entirely different direction.

So Mike, to answer to your question... Trump can promise anything he pleases, as his supporters will accept any cockamamie idea/statement he comes up with.
Mike in Sydney AUG 06, 06:39 PM

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Originally posted by Patrick:

Mike, you got your answer from two of Trump's biggest supporters at this forum. One member appears to have the same math skills as Trump ... while the other has the same deflection skills as Trump, totally ignoring your actual question and going off in an entirely different direction.

So Mike, to answer to your question... Trump can promise anything he pleases, as his supporters will accept any cockamamie idea/statement he comes up with.



The math error I kinda sorta understand. Deflection…not so much. I thought it was a simple question.
82-T/A [At Work] AUG 06, 08:46 PM

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Originally posted by Patrick:

Mike, you got your answer from two of Trump's biggest supporters at this forum. One member appears to have the same math skills as Trump ... while the other has the same deflection skills as Trump, totally ignoring your actual question and going off in an entirely different direction.

So Mike, to answer to your question... Trump can promise anything he pleases, as his supporters will accept any cockamamie idea/statement he comes up with.




It wasn't a real question he was asking. It was based purely on emotion and his frustration, but I still chose to try to answer it in a reasonable manner.

What I will tell you though (since none of this seems important to you)... the Democrat party is in shambles. They have the worst approval rating in over 30 years. The last administration is almost unanimously viewed by all except radical leftists as a complete and utter failure. It honestly looks like entire generations are swearing off the party for good. There's even a distinct a possibility that it might split permanently between Socialists and old Democrats. I'm praying every night for Mandami to win the NYC election so NYC can fully experience the excitement of socialism (which I will no doubt benefit from as they will all move to Florida, and I own 3 properties in the state).

I should probably be enjoying this... but to an extent, I actually feel sorry for you guys.
Patrick AUG 06, 10:41 PM
More deflection.

Come on Todd, answer Mike's simple question.


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Originally posted by Mike in Sydney:

Can someone explain to me how Don can promise savings of 500, 800, 1000, 1500 percent on prescription drug prices? By my calculations, that would mean the drug manufacturer would give the consumer the drug for free and also pay them 4,7, 9, 14 times the cost of the drug.



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Mike in Sydney AUG 07, 06:07 AM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
It wasn't a real question he was asking. It was based purely on emotion and his frustration, but I still chose to try to answer it in a reasonable manner.

What I will tell you though (since none of this seems important to you)... the Democrat party is in shambles. They have the worst approval rating in over 30 years. The last administration is almost unanimously viewed by all except radical leftists as a complete and utter failure. It honestly looks like entire generations are swearing off the party for good. There's even a distinct a possibility that it might split permanently between Socialists and old Democrats. I'm praying every night for Mandami to win the NYC election so NYC can fully experience the excitement of socialism (which I will no doubt benefit from as they will all move to Florida, and I own 3 properties in the state).

I should probably be enjoying this... but to an extent, I actually feel sorry for you guys.



Thank you for your sympathy, Todd, but I really don’t need it.

I asked a real question. It wasn’t based on emotion or my frustration. And no, you didn’t try to answer, you went off on a tangent as you have done before.

What I don’t understand is how you (you seem to be reasonably intelligent) think that everything Don says is gospel. Surely you can see that many of the things he says and does are emotionally based. He lashes out at anyone who criticises him. When he is proven wrong, he doubles, triples, or quadruples down and continues to espouse false or incorrect statements. Doesn’t it concern you at least a little?

BTW, I’m not a Mandami supporter. I suspect that if the choices were better, he wouldn’t be the designated candidate. But even if he is elected, I don’t foresee dramatic issues for NYC. I DO expect to see Republicans try to sew discontent. It’s been in the Republican playbook since Newt Gingrich’s Contract on America.
82-T/A [At Work] AUG 07, 07:43 AM

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Originally posted by Mike in Sydney:


Thank you for your sympathy, Todd, but I really don’t need it.

I asked a real question. It wasn’t based on emotion or my frustration. And no, you didn’t try to answer, you went off on a tangent as you have done before.

What I don’t understand is how you (you seem to be reasonably intelligent) think that everything Don says is gospel. Surely you can see that many of the things he says and does are emotionally based. He lashes out at anyone who criticises him. When he is proven wrong, he doubles, triples, or quadruples down and continues to espouse false or incorrect statements. Doesn’t it concern you at least a little?

BTW, I’m not a Mandami supporter. I suspect that if the choices were better, he wouldn’t be the designated candidate. But even if he is elected, I don’t foresee dramatic issues for NYC. I DO expect to see Republicans try to sew discontent. It’s been in the Republican playbook since Newt Gingrich’s Contract on America.




Your question wasn't real. It's not about topic or content, it's about satiating your TDS. I made the [incorrect] assumption that you wanted an answer on how the U.S. might be able to lower drug prices.


You say "What I don’t understand is how you think that everything Don says is gospel."

I don't, but you apparently do, it seems? I'd never even heard that small interview snippet... which means it probably wasn't important to most people. Trump bloviates. He's a New Yorker, it's what they do, and it's something he does. It doesn't mean I take that as gospel. The math obviously doesn't work. Since we're talking about gospel, if I look at the Bible, there are two books of Genesis that presumably contradict themselves. Do I take both to be fact, or do I understand the message that's being conveyed here?

My understanding of what's being done is more than skin deep, meanwhile, you seem to be living off negative soundbites. To you, this is all about Trump and your obsession with him. To me, this is about fixing the problems in America. The weird thing is, you are obsessed with Trump, yet you think that I (or others) are also obsessed with Trump. You really do not understand the middle-center and general conservative mind. Trump is a means to an end, and to a degree, rather entertaining. I can absolutely speak for everyone else here who's of my same mindset, Blackrams, Raydar, Randye, etc., and say that they feel the same way I do about him. I'd be willing to bet.
Mike in Sydney AUG 07, 08:03 AM
Todd, Todd, Todd. I get it. It’s hard to convince someone that sees things differently that you are right and only your view point is valid. I think this is really upsetting to you so to help you I’m going to say you win. You’ve really put me in my place and helped me understand the answer to my question. Thank you. I’m now ready to give my life to the MAGA-sphere.

Why could I not see this before? It’s all so clear now. Maybe now I can get over my TDS.

Can anyone tell me where I can get my red MAGA hat?

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