Epstein files? (Page 1/5)
Raydar JUL 13, 06:37 PM
I'm curious as to everyone's thoughts. I'm not convinced either way.

Here's what I've read, and shared elsewhere:

"First, there is the possibility that members of the Trump administration are in on it — that the conspiracy actually now includes Attorney General Pam Bondi, who vowed to disclose everything Epstein related; FBI Director Kash Patel, who called for the release of the supposed Epstein list before entering office; FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino, who as a radio and podcast host was strongly skeptical of the conventional narrative surrounding Epstein; Vice President JD Vance, who told a podcast host just weeks ago that the Epstein list would require release; and Trump himself, who advocated for that position during the campaign. To believe this, you’d have to believe that all of these people entered office and then promptly reversed themselves on Epstein because they want to cover for the most scandalous pedophile ring of all time. Few who posit this possibility are willing to state it clearly; instead they hide behind suggestion and vagary. But that is the position: that Epstein was a member or asset of an intelligence agency, for example, and that the Trump administration is now fully complicit in covering up the mass rape of children.

Then there’s the second possibility: that members of the Trump administration honestly believed that they would be able to unmask a hideous ring of pedophilic activity — and then examined the evidence and found it didn’t justify their suspicions. Frankly, I find this possibility far more plausible than the first possibility: I don’t believe that Bondi, Patel, Bongino, Vance and Trump are so evil that they would cover for a full-scale pedophile ring. I could be wrong. But I generally like to have actual evidence of a cover-up of this magnitude before accusing people of covering up mass child rape."


And this was offered by a friend of mine:

"He doesn't raise the third, most likely possibility. The powers-that-be have changed twice since Epstein was arrested, they've had plenty of time to sanitize or alter the information. This isn't even scratching on the videos the FBI confiscated from the New York home the FIRST time he was arrested and tried. It all stinks, like one of the three-letter-agencies set the whole thing up. And for the people out there denying that they would do such a thing, learn more history. Like this book - it'll make you sick." https://www.amazon.com/Devi...FZB93Y/ref=sr_1_1...

I haven't read the book, yet, but I will. But I have no trouble believing any d-baggery attributed to our government.

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blackrams JUL 13, 08:39 PM
In that I don't trust the "Press" any longer and for sure don't believe much I read on the internet. I (like most folks) would like to know what evidence has been gathered and if anything, that has been reported to have happened actually been done and who supposedly did what.

Is there a list of "visitors" to Epstein's Private Island? Don't know. Is there a passenger list of those who flew to that island? I have serious doubts but who knows......... Have those kids who were allegedly taken advantage of made statements verifying anything.
It does appear based on what I've read that Epstein was in big trouble over the alleged crimes on his island but who else?
Yes, I'd like those files open to the public and let the chips fall where they may.

Rams

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Doug85GT JUL 13, 10:19 PM
I want as much disclosure as they can make and I don't want to be lied to. Bondi has completely screwed up the release of material. Now she is trying to gaslight us into believing there is nothing there to begin with. If the answer is that they can't release the information because of national security, then fine, say that. Just don't lie to me. IMO Bondi needs to go. She is not in control of the DOJ. There are ongoing cases going against President Trump's agenda and she is oblivious to them.

This is a huge political liability. It is causing people to think that no matter who get elected, the Deep State ends up compromising them. This story has completely upstaged all of the positive economic news and the passing of the BBB.
Jake_Dragon JUL 13, 10:58 PM
Honestly I don't need to see the list but a judge and jury should be seeing parts of it already and if there is enough evidence start making some arrests.
I say lets appoint Sheriff Grady Judd as special investigator and lets start putting people in jail.
blackrams JUL 13, 11:29 PM

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Originally posted by Doug85GT:

I want as much disclosure as they can make and I don't want to be lied to. Bondi has completely screwed up the release of material. Now she is trying to gaslight us into believing there is nothing there to begin with. If the answer is that they can't release the information because of national security, then fine, say that. Just don't lie to me. IMO Bondi needs to go. She is not in control of the DOJ. There are ongoing cases going against President Trump's agenda and she is oblivious to them.

This is a huge political liability. It is causing people to think that no matter who get elected, the Deep State ends up compromising them. This story has completely upstaged all of the positive economic news and the passing of the BBB.



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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

Honestly I don't need to see the list but a judge and jury should be seeing parts of it already and if there is enough evidence start making some arrests.
I say lets appoint Sheriff Grady Judd as special investigator and lets start putting people in jail.



Valid points from you both.

Rams
blackrams JUL 18, 07:18 AM
Bondi says she'll try to unseal Epstein grand jury records

https://www.aol.com/trump-f...-over-170107012.html

Rams
ray b JUL 18, 06:39 PM
who bankrolled him private islands and personal jets ain't cheap

putin or the zionists ?
maybe china but it ain't their style
nor do they spend at that level

now even the magats can see why the cover up

i think zionists using the USA OWN MONEY
IRS should be on the case
and one can see why that needs a cover up

as in all things
FOLLOW THE MONEY
IT WILL TRY TO TWIST AND HIDE
JEFF HAD A BIG BANK FROM SOMEBODY RICH

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Patrick JUL 18, 09:09 PM

Catchy tune!

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Patrick JUL 22, 12:25 AM

Trump isn't fooling anybody... except for perhaps the most diehard MAGAcentrics.