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Patrick
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JUN 06, 04:28 PM
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I checked into P&R after a long absence, expecting to see all sorts of discussion regarding the bitter fallout between Donald Trump and Elon Musk. Apparently no one here has been following the news! I therefore feel it's my duty to bring everyone up to date...
Impeachment, Epstein and bitter acrimony: Trump and Musk joust in astonishing social media duel
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Tensions over the Republican spending bill burst into public view as the president’s relationship with his former adviser deteriorated
Hugo Lowell and Andrew Roth in Washington
Thu 5 Jun 2025 22.13 BST
Elon Musk called for Donald Trump’s impeachment and mocked his connections to the convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, as the US president threatened to cancel federal contracts and tax subsidies for Musk’s companies, in an extraordinary social media feud that erupted between the former allies on Thursday.
The deterioration of their once close relationship into bitter acrimony came over the course of several remarkable hours during which the president and the world’s richest person hurled deeply personal insults over matters significant and insignificant.
The direct shots at Trump were the latest twist in the public showdown over a Republican spending bill that Musk had criticized. Trump and Musk had been careful not to hit each other directly, but on Thursday the pair discarded restraint as the feud escalated on their respective social media platforms.
In the most churlish moment of the astonishing saga, Musk said on X the reason the Trump administration had not released the files into Epstein was because they implicated the president. He later quote-tweeted a post calling for Trump to be removed and said Trump’s tariffs would cause a recession.
“Time to drop the really big bomb: Donald Trump is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public. Have a nice day, DJT!” Musk wrote, after Trump threatened to cut subsidies for Musk’s companies as it would save “billions”.
It was a bizarre drama that served to underscore the degree to which Trump and Musk’s relationship has been one of mutual convenience, despite the White House claiming for months that they were simply ideologically aligned.
It also caused the rightwing writer Ashley St Clair, who gave birth to Musk’s 14th known child and sued Musk for child support, to weigh in. “Let me know if u need any breakup advice,” she posted on X, tagging Trump.
Shares in Tesla, Musk’s electric vehicle company, fell almost 15% on Thursday afternoon with the decline timed to when Trump’s remarks began. Musk’s rocket company, SpaceX, is not publicly traded, but competitors to SpaceX rose on the news.
For weeks, Musk has complained about the budget bill, and used the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office estimating the bill would add $2.4tn to the deficit over the next decade as an opening to condemn the legislation as a “disgusting abomination”.
On Thursday, Trump appeared to finally have had enough of Musk’s complaints. Speaking in the Oval Office as the German chancellor, Friedrich Merz, looked on in bemusement, Trump mocked Musk’s recent black eye and questioned why he didn’t cover it up.
“You saw a man who was very happy when he stood behind the Oval desk. Even with a black eye. I said, do you want a little makeup? He said, no, I don’t think so. Which is interesting,” Trump said. “Elon and I had a great relationship. I don’t know if we will any more.”
Trump then ratcheted up his barbs against Musk, accusing him of turning against the bill solely out of self-interest, as the bill did not benefit Tesla, Musk’s electric vehicle company. Trump also pulled the nomination of Musk’s preferred candidate to lead Nasa.
“I’m very disappointed with Elon,” Trump said. “He had no problem with it. All of a sudden he had a problem, and he only developed the problem when he found out we’re going to cut the EV mandate.”
Musk then went on the warpath.
Within minutes of Trump’s comments appearing in a clip on X, where Musk was responding in real time, Musk accused the president of lying about the bill, and accused Trump of being ungrateful for the millions he spent to get him elected.
“Without me, Trump would have lost the election, Dems would control the House and the Republicans would be 51-49 in the Senate,” Musk said in a post on X. He added: “Such ingratitude.”
Musk taking credit for Trump’s election win initially threatened to be the touchpoint for their relationship, given Trump had made a point to say that Musk’s contributions had no effect on him winning the battleground state of Pennsylvania.
But then Trump posted on Truth Social that he had fired Musk from his role as a special adviser because he was “wearing thin” at the White House, and Musk responded: “Such an obvious lie. So sad.”
It was less than a half an hour later that Musk fired off his Epstein tweet, in effect accusing him of being part of an alleged child sexual abuse ring linked to Epstein, using a dog whistle for the Maga movement to try to set them against the president.
In doing so, Musk ignored his own connections to Epstein. In 2014, like Trump, Musk was photographed at a party with Ghislaine Maxwell, a former Epstein girlfriend who was convicted in 2021 on charges that she helped the financier’s sex-trafficking activities.
The public feud comes after a remarkable partnership that lasted longer than many Democrats on Capitol Hill and in Trump’s orbit predicted.
Musk spent hundreds of millions of dollars on Trump’s re-election campaign through his specially created America Pac, which shouldered a large portion of Trump’s door-knocking campaign, although the actual impact of that ground-game effort is unclear.
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Who didn't see this happening? lol Two narcissistic egomaniacs battling it out over who has the biggest (fill in the blank). What a freakin' circus!
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Patrick
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JUN 06, 04:34 PM
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And for anyone who would rather have the situation spelled out to them in a video...
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Patrick
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JUN 06, 07:32 PM
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It was just a week ago that Donald presented Elon with a key to his heart. Oh, this is so sad. Love is such a fickle mistress.
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JUN 07, 11:01 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
... I therefore feel it's my duty to bring everyone up to date...
Who didn't see this happening? lol Two narcissistic egomaniacs battling it out over who has the biggest (fill in the blank). What a freakin' circus! |
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Your duty ? Admit it. You are tickled pink with this development. I take it you had no brothers you would occasionally get into a fight with. It will blow over. If any of the Guardians thoughts are true.
Did you not know that by law, Musk could serve as a special advisor to President Trump for just three months ? Another thing to consider is that Elon's personal financial endeavors took quite a hit for working for our President. His Tesla's were getting damaged by haters of our President. The left wing fake news was calling him Hitler as they suffer from TDS. Now the left loves him again.
Are you gullible much ? The Guardian is a liberal news organization.
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Patrick
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JUN 07, 03:40 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by cliffw:
If any of the Guardians thoughts are true.
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LOL... Oh sure Cliff, it's gotta be 100% fabricated. No one in such a position of power could be this much of a fool, right? Man oh man, you've got your head stuck so far in the sand you can probably see China. And you dare call me "gullible". 
It's no surprise there's been no discussion of this dog and pony show by the resident MAGA supporters here. They're all hoping it'll all just "blow over". Good luck with that! What a complete joke of an administration.[This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 06-07-2025).]
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Patrick
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JUN 07, 03:58 PM
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In any language, the message is clear...
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Jake_Dragon
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JUN 07, 07:22 PM
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You are hilarious, not really but you are.
I thought you were done with this section?
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Patrick
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JUN 07, 07:36 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:
I thought you were done with this section?
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You wish. lol
I am mostly "done with this section"... but I felt it was "hilarious" (using your term) that all the vocal MAGA supporters here in P&R have suddenly clammed up. Hey, I get it... I'd be embarrassed too if I voted for this clown show!
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blackrams
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JUN 07, 09:09 PM
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The vast majority who voted for DJT and many that didn't are supporting his leadership and the direction he is taking this country. Only the haters are trying to make a big deal out of this spat.
Even if DJT fails in getting changes made, he's still 1,000% better than what we had. and what the Dems were offering.
Admittedly, those two do have major egos but, most successful people do.
Rams[This message has been edited by blackrams (edited 06-07-2025).]
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Patrick
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JUN 07, 09:53 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
The vast majority who voted for DJT and many that didn't are supporting his leadership and the direction he is taking this country.
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I'd like to see a current poll on that! If what you say is true, and that's a big "if"... then the American people are getting what they deserve.
| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
Only the haters are trying to make a big deal out of this spat.
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You're so quick to pigeonhole and label anyone who hasn't drank the Kool-Aid/elephant pizz. The whole world is watching this bitchfest play out. It would be funny if it wasn't such juvenile behavior by "men" (using the term loosely) in positions of power and authority.
 [This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 06-07-2025).]
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