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82-T/A [At Work]
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JAN 10, 02:14 PM
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Can we talk about this? Newsom and Karen Bass are getting absolutely destroyed right now.
These fires have exemplified the absolute epic failure that this type of governance has been. These people literally voted for these politicians, and they didn't care when it was other people getting screwed, but now their homes have all burned down... particularly the very wealthy in the area... and what now?
I've never really watched Adam Corolla... but he absolutely nailed it here:
https://x.com/TheKevinDalto.../1877232935864033327
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82-T/A [At Work]
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JAN 10, 02:22 PM
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cliffw
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JAN 10, 03:40 PM
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James Wood also nailed it.
What's the phrase ? Struck the landing ?[This message has been edited by cliffw (edited 01-10-2025).]
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NewDustin
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JAN 10, 03:59 PM
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I have serious gripes with how the CA government is run, but this is a surprising take to me. CA has been investing way more in fire prevention recently...like 2-3x what it was a few years ago. It's definitely too-little-too-late, but somehow I don't think "they should've spent more on environmental regulation and management" is the heart of the criticism here. The regulations Corolla is complaining about are local, not statewide. I'll agree completely that the city of LA is a failure of management propped up by disproportionate pockets of wealth, and that the mayor who cut fire protection ought to be run out of town. On top of that it's a city largely populated by douchebags. I don't know what that has to do with CA's fire response, though. Orange County is just as susceptible to burning and it's a conservative area. [This message has been edited by NewDustin (edited 01-10-2025).]
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cliffw
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JAN 10, 04:36 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by NewDustin:
On top of that it's a city largely populated by douchebags. I don't know what that has to do with CA's fire response, though. Orange County is just as susceptible to burning and it's a conservative area.
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The douchebags voted in the inept leadership. Much of the State is infected.
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blackrams
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JAN 10, 04:49 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by NewDustin:
I have serious gripes with how the CA government is run, but this is a surprising take to me. CA has been investing way more in fire prevention recently...like 2-3x what it was a few years ago. It's definitely too-little-too-late, but somehow I don't think "they should've spent more on environmental regulation and management" is the heart of the criticism here. The regulations Corolla is complaining about are local, not statewide. I'll agree completely that the city of LA is a failure of management propped up by disproportionate pockets of wealth, and that the mayor who cut fire protection ought to be run out of town. On top of that it's a city largely populated by douchebags. I don't know what that has to do with CA's fire response, though. Orange County is just as susceptible to burning and it's a conservative area.
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Unless I'm mistaken, State Government promoted and authorized the destruction of four existing damns up north that supplied water to LA. The state also hasn't authorized or built any water sheds/reservoirs in the last eight to ten years to replace those water sources up north. Putting the cart before the horse doesn't always work out so well. This assumes that was the possible plan. I honestly can't imagine how or why the leadership of this state did these things in addition to running several insurance companies out of the state. The 6 Ps definitely apply here IMO.
Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance.
Environmental issues are important but, one needs to consider what could happen if the 6 Ps aren't applied.
Rams[This message has been edited by blackrams (edited 01-10-2025).]
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NewDustin
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JAN 10, 05:19 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
Unless I'm mistaken, State Government promoted and authorized the destruction of four existing damns up north that supplied water to LA. The state also hasn't authorized or built any water sheds/reservoirs in the last eight to ten years to replace those water sources up north. Putting the cart before the horse doesn't always work out so well. This assumes that was the possible plan. I honestly can't imagine how or why the leadership of this state did these things in addition to running several insurance companies out of the state. The 6 Ps definitely apply here IMO.
Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance.
Environmental issues are important but, one needs to consider what could happen if the 6 Ps aren't applied.
Rams
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You are mistaken. The dam removals I think you are referring to (and the only ones that make sense) were on the Klamath, which supplies approximately 0 gallons of LA's water. LA has near-supreme water rights in CA, and the cities/communities on the rivers and lakes would go dry before they did. They litigated and legislated to make damn sure. LA's water comes from the LA aqueduct, the Colorado aqueduct, and the State Water Project, none of which were impacted by the dam removals on the Klamath. There are also multiple water modernization projects in LA, right now, including a new dam being installed in Perris.
CA is absolutely dumb about it's water...but you chose the one area that CA is dumb in favor OF when it comes to water. William Mullholand was a mobster.[This message has been edited by NewDustin (edited 01-10-2025).]
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blackrams
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JAN 10, 05:23 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by NewDustin:
You are mistaken. The dam removals I think you are referring to (and the only ones that make sense) were on the Klamath, which supplies approximately 0 gallons of LA's water. LA has near-supreme water rights in CA, and the cities/communities on the rivers and lakes would go dry before they did. They litigated and legislated to make damn sure. LA's water comes from the LA aqueduct, the Colorado aqueduct, and the State Water Project, none of which were impacted by the dam removals on the Klamath. There are also multiple water modernization projects in LA, right now, including a new dam being installed in Perris.
CA is absolutely dumb about it's water...but you chose the one area that CA is dumb in favor OF when it comes to water. William Mullholand was a mobster.
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Will take you word on this. In this case, I really only know what's been reported. Obviously, one can't believe everything.
But, based on the end result of little or no water for fire crews, it's painfully obvious the 6 Ps were not applied.
Rams[This message has been edited by blackrams (edited 01-10-2025).]
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NewDustin
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JAN 10, 05:27 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
Will take you word on this. In this case, I really only know what's been reported. Obviously, one can't believe everything.
But, based on the end result of little or no water for fire crews, it's painfully obvious the 6 Ps were not applied.
Rams
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I think you probably mean these issue?:
https://www.latimes.com/env...ater-supply-problems
Those are caused by LA's garbage infrastructure. LA is a poorly run city.
Edit: "We didn't think about wild fires!" is the best part of the article. Gee, if only you had some warning.[This message has been edited by NewDustin (edited 01-10-2025).]
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Jake_Dragon
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JAN 10, 06:13 PM
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Perhaps the Ukraine can send some help to support California through this time of need.. 
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