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Is Trudeau on the way out? (Page 1/3) |
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Raydar
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DEC 17, 10:16 AM
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OTTAWA (Reuters) - Canada's ruling Liberals lost a special election in the western province of British Columbia, provisional results showed on Tuesday, deepening the political woes of beleaguered Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
The minority Liberal government was rocked on Monday when Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland unexpectedly resigned, citing policy differences with the prime minister whom she said had asked her to take on a lesser post.
A string of opinion polls over the last 18 months suggests the Liberals are going to be crushed at the next election by the official opposition Conservatives. In the 2021 election, the Liberals had won with 39% of the vote, just ahead of the Conservatives on 36%.
Elections Canada said the Conservatives had taken 66% of Monday's vote in the constituency of Cloverdale—Langley City with the Liberals in second on 16%. The election was held to fill a vacant seat.
The defeat marked the third time in a row that the Liberals had lost a special election to the Conservatives.
Angry Liberal legislators met Trudeau on Monday night, with some repeating calls for him to go.
"We're not united. There's still a number of our members who feel we need a change in leadership," said Chad Collins, a legislator from Ontario, Canada's most populous province and a Liberal stronghold.
"I think the only path forward for us is to choose a new leader and to present a new plan to Canadians with a different vision," he said after the meeting.
Trudeau aides declined to answer questions about what he might do next. Global News cited two sources as saying Trudeau was not in a mindset to resign.
While he cannot be forced out by his caucus, he may find it harder to stay in office if enough Parliamentarians openly call on him to go. So far only a handful have done so.
In another blow, the traditionally pro-Liberal Toronto Star - the largest circulation newspaper in Canada - on Tuesday ran an editorial saying it was time for Trudeau to leave.
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Patrick
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DEC 17, 07:31 PM
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Every politician has a Best Before date. Justin Trudeau may now have reached his.
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blackrams
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DEC 17, 09:25 PM
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An interesting article.
A decision Canadians have to make. The future of a successful Cananda may be at stake. I guess, we shall see....................
Rams
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steve308
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DEC 18, 12:52 PM
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Biden will be available shortly.
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blackrams
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DEC 18, 03:02 PM
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quote | Originally posted by steve308:
Biden will be available shortly. |
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Whoopi might be available, I hear she wants to move to Canada. You know how rumors get started though, hard to know for sure. 
Rams
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NewDustin
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DEC 19, 12:33 AM
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quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Every politician has a Best Before date. Justin Trudeau may now have reached his. |
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You guys are gonna get an ACTUAL CONSERVATIVE for PM! He might be a populist booger, but at least he understand conservative economic policy and isn't relying on his constituents almost universally misunderstanding that a tariff is a tax on everyone, including them.
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Mickey_Moose
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DEC 19, 04:12 PM
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quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Every politician has a Best Before date. Justin Trudeau may now have reached his. |
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His best before date was a least 10 years ago.
He is nothing more than a bully, he didn't like what Chrystia was proposing for the budget so was going to demote her. Same was true for Jody Wilson-Raybould, Jane Philpott and his buddy Bill Morneau. Nevermind all those he demoted because they didn't agree with him. All he wants is "yes men" in his fold telling him how great he is and that will kiss his @ss whenever he likes.
He has always forced his caucus to either adhere to his personal beliefs or keep quiet about it. He has controlled Parliament and used foreign aid to force his personal beliefs on other parliamentarians and upon other nations. Nevermind forcing Canadians to submit to his worldview, or to be ineligible for federal funding.
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Patrick
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DEC 19, 04:57 PM
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quote | Originally posted by Mickey_Moose:
His best before date was a least 10 years ago.
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I'm not a Justin Trudeau fanboy... but if the Conservatives could've fielded a viable alternative in the last decade, perhaps Trudeau's hold on power could've been shortened.
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blackrams
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DEC 19, 08:03 PM
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quote | Originally posted by NewDustin:
You guys are gonna get an ACTUAL CONSERVATIVE for PM! He might be a populist booger, but at least he understand conservative economic policy and isn't relying on his constituents almost universally misunderstanding that a tariff is a tax on everyone, including them. |
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Based on what I'm reading, that may come to pass. Many are calling for Trudeau's resignation.  Apparently, his socialist platform is in failure mode.
Rams
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NewDustin
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DEC 20, 12:19 PM
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quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
Based on what I'm reading, that may come to pass. Many are calling for Trudeau's resignation.  Apparently, his socialist platform is in failure mode.
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I agree that it is extremely likely, though I think it's different than what is happening in the US.
We're shifting towards populism and economic protectionism, much along the same lines as Argentina under Juan Peron (that's a really good read for anyone interested in Trump's political influence, btw). Trump didn't shift the country expressly left or right, he shifted it populist. I don't know if you know Charlie Leduff (he's a 10/10 journalist from Detroit), but he's been reporting on the phenomena that I think led to the populist revolution Trump tapped into. I think that's part of what makes Trump so successful: He really is playing 3D chess in that he's looking at a dimension party candidates/politicians are not.
Canada, on the other hand, seems to be swinging conservative. while there are elements of populism to him, from a policy perspective, Poilievre is nothing like Trump: He's anti-tax/tarriff, pro-free-trade, pro-market, isn't looking to swell/consolidate executive power, is openly against using police force against his opponents...he is an actual conservative, not rebranded centrist/populism like we embraced here.
It will be interesting to see how an actual conservative government looks from this side of the funhouse mirror.
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