Democrats, their actions... and what it may mean for 2024. (Page 1/6)
82-T/A [At Work] FEB 29, 10:45 AM
Response to OldJoe... but I felt it needed it's own new thread so it's not lost in the shuffle.
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/.../000994-10.html#p366


Don't be discouraged by this. Most of my friends are radical leftists... but I've noticed a change in them lately. They aren't suddenly Trump fans... (though I did get one of them to admit they would vote for Trump if he ran as a Democrat, haha...). But one of the things that's been most apparent is the extent to which Democrats are willing to go to actually STOP Trump from being able to run again. And this is important...

Most of my friends are principled... even if we don't agree politically. This means that there is an extent to which they feel too much is too much... meaning there's a fine-line between hatred of someone, and violating the rule of law. In effect... they are seeing that Democrats are "willing to destroy democracy in order to protect it." They're realizing how illogical this is, and how horrible this is for the long-term of the country. Not just in the precedent it sets, but in how the younger generation will view certain things as acceptable. And this is turning the tide.

Not a one of my Democrat (or even Communist-leaning) friends likes Joe Biden. They all think he's been horrible, and they don't even bother to defend them anymore. To that point, they've started sending me articles of really ridiculous things he's been doing. We all know where eachother stand... and we can have these discussions because at the end of the day, we all agree/want the same things, we just believe in a slightly different way to get there. But the bridge too far for all of them would be if the DNC decides to appoint someone else (if Biden decides to drop out). They would either not vote, or have a protest vote. They're all still upset in the way the DNC treated Bernie Sanders.


So... my point. People like this judge live in an echo-chamber. Their friends, colleagues, and everyone around them is a radical leftist. They do not understand, nor do they associate with people that are not totally like them. They almost cannot associate with these people because of the pre-conceived notion they have. It would be like if someone told you that Hitler was a really nice guy if you just got to know him. This is literally how most of these people view Republicans. It's all absurdly unfounded of course, but this is the narrative that's created among radical leftists. So... what these really radical leftists do not understand is that the more they abuse these institutions, the more they perform actions where "the end justifies the means," they turn more and more people against them. Especially coupled with the fact that Biden has done an absolutely horrible job on the economy... and we have several "time bombs" that are starting to go off, like personal debt, housing foreclosures, commercial foreclosures up 97%, car repossessions are up, personal bankruptcies are up 18%, business bankruptcies are up 40%, things like that. Even things like retail theft that is through the roof and people shitting on the streets with record homelessness and drug use... are all things that are directly affecting many Democrat's views of what it means when "Democrat policies" are fully enacted. Everyone is a fan of their favorite team until it's no longer cool. They aren't all becoming Republican, but many of them are planning on merely sitting this election out because they're over it, preoccupied with their own issues, many of which Democrats directly caused.
williegoat FEB 29, 11:08 AM
The Dems, the Left do not like Biden, but they think Trump is the devil incarnate.

No one can deny that Biden is doddering old fool, but he sits between the Left and the devil. In other words, they would prefer someone like AOC (symbolically) but will never accept the freedom that is represented by the Conservative Right.

rinselberg FEB 29, 11:57 AM
Cook County Circuit Judge Tracie Porter... "bio" posted by Cook County Democratic Party
https://www.cookcountydems....court-tracie-porter/


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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
So... my point. People like this judge live in an echo-chamber. Their friends, colleagues, and everyone around them is a radical leftist. They do not understand, nor do they associate with people that are not totally like them. They almost cannot associate with these people because of the pre-conceived notion they have.

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ray b FEB 29, 12:25 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

The Dems, the Left do not like Biden, but they think Trump is the devil incarnate.

No one can deny that Biden is doddering old fool, but he sits between the Left and the devil. In other words, they would prefer someone like AOC (symbolically) but will never accept the freedom that is represented by the Conservative Right.




why is the rump any better

and what that matters has joe mess up on

no border BS as the Gop not the demo don't want it fixed

you keep saying stuff with out any facts
just like the lying rump

proof ?
Raydar FEB 29, 12:56 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Cook County Circuit Judge Tracie Porter... "bio" posted by Cook County Democratic Party
https://www.cookcountydems....court-tracie-porter/




So..?

The first paragraph from the link...

The Illinois Supreme Court unanimously appointed Judge Tracie Porter as an At-Large Cook County Circuit Court Judge (Countywide). Judge Porter was sworn into office on November 12, 2021. Judge Porter currently sits in the Traffic Division in the Richard J. Daley Center in downtown Chicago, where she presides over minor traffic violations and Class A Misdemeanor matters.


Gee. Such lofty qualifications!
National election policy is now being decided by a Traffic Court judge?!
Am I missing something? SMDH.

Edit ...

Judge Porter has a passion for bringing people from all walks of life together in comradery and in a shared sense of purpose. Her like-minded circle of family and friends share in a common sense of kinship and humanity so that their united efforts impact lives and change communities.

"Like-minded."

I think that was Todd's entire point.

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rinselberg FEB 29, 01:02 PM
She's had more than 2 years of additional experience "on the bench" since being sworn in and starting in the Traffic Division!

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Raydar FEB 29, 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

She's had more than 2 years of additional experience "on the bench" since being sworn in and starting in the Traffic Division!




Wonder what she's been doing for two years. Since nobody has bothered to update the article.

Still... a Circuit Court Judge? Aren't the Supremes expected to rule on this?
This is nothing more than political grandstanding. (Which is , by the way, working out so well for Fani Willis.)

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bergertime FEB 29, 05:42 PM
At this point Biden is no more than a place holder, He won't be at the top of the ticket come Nov. The DNC is waiting to see what happens with Trump in the trials to see who to put there. If Trump starts losing support, you'll see Biden step aside 'for health reasons' and Harris take over. If Trump continues to get support, then I think you will see the DNC go to Michelle Obama. But there is no way that Biden will be at the top of the ticket. Democrats are all about identity politics, so that forces Newsome out. There is no way you could replace Harris with a white straight male, we would definitely see some mostly peaceful protests.
BHall71 FEB 29, 06:12 PM

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Originally posted by ray b:

and what that matters has joe mess up on




You're joking right????

olejoedad FEB 29, 06:55 PM

quote
Originally posted by ray b:


why is the rump any better

and what that matters has joe mess up on

no border BS as the Gop not the demo don't want it fixed

you keep saying stuff with out any facts
just like the lying rump

proof ?



Quoted as an example of a hateful, erroneous and partisan speech.