House Intelligence Committ chairman's hair on fire about a new Russian 'capability' (Page 1/7)
rinselberg FEB 14, 04:30 PM
Very strange. I'll just put this link to a report in CNN.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/02...ty-threat/index.html
Doug85GT FEB 14, 04:35 PM
They found out about Russia's new stealth fighter.

williegoat FEB 14, 04:43 PM
Well, Covid don't scare 'em no more and sharks with laser beams are so last century. Russians in space is all they got left. Well, that and weirdos with guns. Of course I'm betting the KC thing is gang related.

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82-T/A [At Work] FEB 14, 04:58 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Very strange. I'll just put this link to a report in CNN.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/02...ty-threat/index.html




I'm totally speculating here... but I doubt seriously that it has anything to do with Russia. CNN and left-leaning news seem to be constantly enamored with Russia... which is essentially a barely functioning "western" society that's basically broke, and has the remnants of a military left over from the 1970s and 1980s. They have a few things going for them, which is that they spend money on advanced technology in areas where they actually can compete on the world stage. That's hypersonics (allegedly) and cyber warfare. Beyond that... they are an irrelevant nation.

CNN has a really bad track record with their "sources," and I honestly don't trust them to have decent sources in the first place. For that matter, I doubt seriously that Russia wants to start a full-scale war with the United States... which makes the "gravity" of this threat totally non-existent (if it was Russia). I could be completely wrong, but I think this angle is totally nonsense.

What I do think it could be... is possibly one of two things:

- SCADA / ICS malware in power plants, energy sectory, and infrastructure. I suspect they've likely been told that the U.S. energy companies are compromised... either they've identified some instances of it, or they caught intelligence of people talking about it... and they're worried it could be leveraged to bring us to our knees. If you can cripple U.S. energy production, our economy dies quickly and we go into a panic state.

- Immigration / Terrorism ... possibly they got wind of a potential planned attack on the United States, and recognize that there's individuals who've crossed the border... and the intel select committee wants the information out to allow local police and lower clearanced DHS and FBI agents to action it.

- Maybe something to do with Taiwan ...


But Russia? Nah... I'm just not buying it.
ray b FEB 14, 05:02 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

Well, Covid don't scare 'em no more and sharks with laser beams are so last century. Russians in space is all they got left. Well, that and weirdos with guns. Of course I'm betting the KC thing is gang related.

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WELL IMMIGRANT GANGS AT LEAST
not domestic gangs who live here
must be those border jumping cop thumping 3rd world gangs right ?

other wise how can the rump stoke the fears
rinselberg FEB 14, 07:11 PM
Thursday still looks good

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Representative Jim Himes, Democrat of Connecticut and the ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee, said the issue was “serious” and [House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Turner] was right to focus on it. But he added that the threat was “not going to ruin your Thursday.”


How's this for openers?

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The United States has informed Congress and its allies in Europe of new intelligence about Russian nuclear capabilities that could pose an international threat, according to officials briefed on the matter.

Officials said that the new intelligence was serious—but that the capability was still under development, and Russia had not deployed it. Consequently, it did not pose an urgent threat to the United States, Ukraine or America’s European allies, they said. The information is highly classified, and officials said it could not be declassified without [compromising] its source.

A current and a former U.S. official said the new intelligence was related to Russia’s attempts to develop a space-based antisatellite nuclear weapon . . .


I think we need to open a new Russia investigation. Or reopen the old one.


These are excerpts from today's edition of the New York Times.

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82-T/A [At Work] FEB 14, 09:08 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:
Thursday still looks good
I think we need to open a new Russia investigation. Or reopen the old one.

These are excerpts from today's edition of the New York Times.





If this is really about Russia, and they're perceived ability to destroy our satellites, then this is a totally absurd action by the House Intelligence Committee. For what purpose do they need to declassify this? The intelligence community already knows everything the House Intelligence Committee knows about, and they can put re-direct funding from black budgets to fund various programs to counter such threats. Why the big theatrics?

I still cannot believe this has anything to do about Russia... because if it does, there is no benefit gained from this stunt, and I have to assume it's politics... possibly to hurt Biden (could care less), or to try to encourage funding for Ukraine by saying we need a big spending bill to counter a threat, and then include the Ukraine stuff in it.
rinselberg FEB 15, 04:15 PM
"The Real Takeaway From the 'National Security Threat' Panic"
Fred Kaplan for Slate; February 15, 2024.
https://slate.com/news-and-...ssia-satellites.html

Just over 5 minutes for a careful read, end to end.

The Russian capability is likely a nuclear powered satellite that Russia could use to destroy or interfere with U.S. satellites using non-nuclear projectiles or jamming signals.

The advantage of using "nuclear" to power this anti-satellite satellite is like the Energizer Bunny—it could keep on going and going and going. It wouldn't be dependent on the limitations of an onboard chemical fuel supply, or need to recharge with solar panels—which could be cumbersome.

It would be like a Russian "Pac-Man" in orbit, gobbling up U.S. satellites with the rapidity of—wait for it—a Pac-Man avatar in a Pac-Man style video game.

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olejoedad FEB 15, 04:26 PM
The question that you should be asking is 'What news story dropped that the government wants buried behind a fear filled headline'?

Hmmm.....

Could it have anything to do with the story about foreign governments spying on Trump at the behest of the Obama administration?

Nawww......
82-T/A [At Work] FEB 15, 05:45 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

"The Real Takeaway From the 'National Security Threat' Panic"
Fred Kaplan for Slate; February 15, 2024.
https://slate.com/news-and-...ssia-satellites.html

Just over 5 minutes for a careful read, end to end.

The Russian capability is likely a nuclear powered satellite that Russia could use to destroy or interfere with U.S. satellites using non-nuclear projectiles or jamming signals.

The advantage of using "nuclear" to power this anti-satellite satellite is like the Energizer Bunny—it could keep on going and going and going. It wouldn't be dependent on the limitations of an onboard chemical fuel supply, or need to recharge with solar panels—which could be cumbersome.

It would be like a Russian "Pac-Man" in orbit, gobbling up U.S. satellites with the rapidity of—wait for it—a Pac-Man avatar in a Pac-Man style video game.




This is hardly a reason to scream to Biden to declassify. What exactly is / would be the purpose of making this public?