PETROLPHOBIA (Page 58/62)
steve308 JAN 07, 01:43 PM
Mini gas war in my area. New Sheetz caused the area WAWAs to lower prices. New 7-11 just opened and has gas at 2.63. Sheetz and area WAWAs matched it. New WAWA to open right accross the highway from the Sheetz so local prices should remain competitive. Buckeys is also being encouraged to open a location in the same area! Oh, no electric vehicle chargers at these three newest stations!
cliffw JAN 08, 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by steve308:
Mini gas war in my area. New Sheetz caused the area WAWAs to lower prices. New 7-11 just opened and has gas at 2.63. Sheetz and area WAWAs matched it. New WAWA to open right accross the highway from the Sheetz so local prices should remain competitive. Buckeys is also being encouraged to open a location in the same area! Oh, no electric vehicle chargers at these three newest stations!



What does it cost to charger an electric vehicle ?

Are there ever mini charging wars ?
Raydar JAN 08, 11:59 AM

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Originally posted by cliffw:

What does it cost to charger an electric vehicle ?

Are there ever mini charging wars ?



Heh... I'm not holding my breath for that one.
82-T/A [At Work] JAN 08, 08:34 PM

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Originally posted by cliffw:

What does it cost to charger an electric vehicle ?

Are there ever mini charging wars ?




It's actually not bad.... it depends on the cost of electricity in the city / state you're recharging from. We can use Tesla as the example. In years past, it was a flat rate across a particular state... but this led to people going to more convenient (but more costly to Tesla) locations for the SuperChargers. Now, every single DC / SuperCharger site has its own cost / price per Kw.

Middle of the road, it's about $25-30 to charge from 10% to 100%... but that's in places with a fairly low cost for power (like Texas). I don't know what it is in California, but I'd imagine it's probably higher since they charge so much more for their power consumption.
USFiero APR 07, 04:18 AM
We're back in the $3.30+/per gallon for regular again. Summer is coming with it's change in formula and higher cost.
82-T/A [At Work] APR 07, 08:28 AM

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Originally posted by USFiero:

We're back in the $3.30+/per gallon for regular again. Summer is coming with it's change in formula and higher cost.




The thing I'm concerned about is that Biden has depleted the strategic oil reserves, and continues to not refill it.

This article from 4 days ago is decent... it does the best job it can to not state how serious of an issue this is:
https://www.reuters.com/mar...cy-stash-2024-01-04/


At the end of the day though, he sold off more than half the strategic oil reserves to lower gas prices because his poll numbers were falling dramatically. This is never, EVER a reason to sell off the SPR.
cliffw APR 07, 09:49 AM

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Originally posted by cliffw:
What does it cost to charger an electric vehicle ?

Are there ever mini charging wars ?





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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
It's actually not bad.... it depends on the cost of electricity in the city / state you're recharging from. We can use Tesla as the example. In years past, it was a flat rate across a particular state... but this led to people going to more convenient (but more costly to Tesla) locations for the SuperChargers. Now, every single DC / SuperCharger site has its own cost / price per Kw.

Middle of the road, it's about $25-30 to charge from 10% to 100%... but that's in places with a fairly low cost for power (like Texas). I don't know what it is in California, but I'd imagine it's probably higher since they charge so much more for their power consumption.



I missed this intelligence when you posted.

The cost per charge is a consideration, but not the only one. My Wife's RAV4 can go 1 1/2 times as far on a fill up. It takes me about three minutes for me to fill it for her.


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Originally posted by cliffw:
Are there ever mini charging wars ?



I meant to ask "price charging wars".

The Capital System's competition in the United States is responsible for lowering prices.
BingB APR 07, 01:21 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
At the end of the day though, he sold off more than half the strategic oil reserves to lower gas prices because his poll numbers were falling dramatically. This is never, EVER a reason to sell off the SPR.


When oil prices were rising dramatically the right-wing media criticized Biden for not releasing the oil reserves. I remember when he finally released the first 50 million barrels Jesse Waters still criticized him for not doing enough.

I don't know what 82TA was saying back in 2021, but the right wing will complain no matter what Biden does. Even when it helps the working class by lowering gas prices. He was wrong for not releasing it sooner, and now he is wrong for releasing it in the first place.

cliffw APR 07, 01:36 PM

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Originally posted by BingB:
When oil prices were rising dramatically the right-wing media criticized Biden for not releasing the oil reserves. I remember when he finally released the first 50 million barrels Jesse Waters still criticized him for not doing enough.



Your credibility is lacking.

Proof, Evidence, Facts ?


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Originally posted by BingB:
I don't know what 82TA was saying back in 2021, but the right wing will complain no matter what Biden does. Even when it helps the working class by lowering gas prices. He was wrong for not releasing it sooner, and now he is wrong for releasing it in the first place.



The SPR was not intended to be used to help a President's poll numbers.

Where was the SFR when Biden let parents of newborns not be able to find formula for their working class babies ?
USFiero APR 19, 09:31 AM
The 'right wing' never expected a release of reserves to moderate prices - it was Bidens day one acting to cut down and choke off petroleum production (as he campaigned on) that got the criticism.

And the administration's lack of willingness to correct it's bad policies.