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olejoedad
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AUG 10, 07:53 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by ray b:
''Federal judges are appointed by people elected by popular vote.''
NO the rump lost the popular vote by 3 million
still got to pack the court with nut con fools
sorry but that did just happen
and 95% of the rump picks were nuts
who will be a threat for years to come
and WILL NEED NULLIFICATION OFTEN IN THE FUTURE
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The only person in the process of installing Federal judges that is not elected by the popular vote is the President.
The President is elected by the Electoral College.
The Federal judges are nominated by the President and then interviewed and voted on by Senators of both parties.
Senators are elected by popular vote.
Welcome to a Republic, where the rights of the minority are protected from the mob rule of a democracy.
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fredtoast
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AUG 10, 07:57 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
And you got it... "And the impacts on the insurance industry, which would otherwise have to cover the damages..."
But more apropos, you should be saying, the "insurance lobby." Almost every requirement within CFR 49 Statute 571 was put there as a result of the insurance lobby. This isn't a left/right thing... obviously, so no one should take it as such, |
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Yep.
I predict phones will soon be "required" to disable the keypad when moving faster than 15 MPH. Pretty simple technology.
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82-T/A [At Work]
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AUG 10, 08:05 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
How old is your dad? He's probably younger than I am! Being "old-school" is no excuse. No disrespect to your dad, but it's because of people like him that seat belt laws needed to be implemented. It's the same issue with people using their damn cell phones while they're driving. Anyone with an ounce of sense would realize that this is dangerous behavior and not do it... yet cell phone laws have had to be enacted to try and stop this idiocy from occurring. |
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Careful Patrick... don't be dissing my dad. He's definitely older than you by probably 15-20 years.
This should give you an indication of how old he is... he was born in a shed during the NAZI occupation of the Netherlands, just before the Canadians came in and saved them.
Seat belts were less common in Europe, and when he moved to the United States in 1963, he shared a used VW Beetle with his two roommates... and that Volkswagen (a late-50s VW) did not have them. His first Volvo (which was used) only had lap belts, and it wasn't normal for him to wear them. It's just what it is. He does put it on, but only after the car beeps at him enough times for him to realize that he needs to put it on.
He has to put on his special reading glasses just to see the screen, so I can assure you, he does not use his cell phone in his car either.
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Patrick
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AUG 10, 08:07 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by fredtoast:
I predict phones will soon be "required" to disable the keypad when moving faster than 15 MPH.
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That would suck for those in the car not driving who wish to use their cell phones. I believe that education, and damn stiff fines (and/or driving prohibitions), will have to suffice for now.[This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 08-10-2023).]
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Patrick
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AUG 10, 08:22 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Careful Patrick... don't be dissing my dad. He's definitely older than you by probably 15-20 years.
This should give you an indication of how old he is... he was born in a shed during the NAZI occupation of the Netherlands, just before the Canadians came in and saved them.
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I was born in 1955. Sounds like your dad is ten years older than me. That's not a lot!
Okay, I'll now use my own parents as an example. They were born in 1919 and 1920. Their first car was a '55 Chev bought in 1960. No seat belts. They then bought a brand new '67 Chev. It had seat belts. I remember driving back from the dealership in it. We all wore our seat belts... and that continued every time any of us got in that car.
Sorry, but being "old-school" is a bogus excuse for not wearing seat belts. Tell your dad to smarten up!  [This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 08-10-2023).]
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MidEngineManiac
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AUG 10, 09:11 PM
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I never wore them before 89. Then I rolled a 78 Pontiac Acadian down an embankment (blew the F.L. tire on a descending curve) and used my forehead to drive the rear-view mirror thru the windshield at the passenger a-pillar.
Kinda found out they might be a good idea.
Hasnt changed my stance on motorcycle helmets, though.  [This message has been edited by MidEngineManiac (edited 08-10-2023).]
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Patrick
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AUG 10, 09:24 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:
Hasnt changed my stance on motorcycle helmets, though.
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I've only ever played recreational hockey, but when I started in the 70's (didn't play when I was a kid), I never wore a hockey helmet. It wasn't until I went to a summer hockey "school" that mandated helmets (or you didn't get on the ice) that I started wearing one. Now, a hundred years later (yes, I'm still playing), I wouldn't try playing hockey without a helmet. The boards and the ice are hard. I don't want my noggin scrambled in a fall.
So yeah, even a "leftist" like me had to be forced to initially wear a helmet... and then common sense prevailed to where it's now my decision to do so.
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fredtoast
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AUG 10, 10:51 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
That would suck for those in the car not driving who wish to use their cell phones. I believe that education, and damn stiff fines (and/or driving prohibitions), will have to suffice for now.
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You are correct. Too restrictive on passengers
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Patrick
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AUG 11, 12:27 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
Welcome to a Republic, where the rights of the minority are protected from the mob rule of a democracy.
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I've seen variations of this posted here numerous times, as if it somehow clarifies what the benefit of minority rule is.
The only people benefiting from minority rule are those who currently find themselves in a favorable societal position which can only be maintained through unfair representation in governmental affairs. So sure, I understand why these particular people would strive to maintain the status quo... but let's not pretend this is equatable for all. To suggest that the rights of a few have more weight than the rights of the many is... is... let me introduce you to the "royal" families of Europe. I thought Americans wished to distance themselves from this nonsense.[This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 08-11-2023).]
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82-T/A [At Work]
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AUG 11, 08:41 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
I've seen variations of this posted here numerous times, as if it somehow clarifies what the benefit of minority rule is.
The only people benefiting from minority rule are those who currently find themselves in a favorable societal position which can only be maintained through unfair representation in governmental affairs. So sure, I understand why these particular people would strive to maintain the status quo... but let's not pretend this is equatable for all. To suggest that the rights of a few have more weight than the rights of the many is... is... let me introduce you to the "royal" families of Europe. I thought Americans wished to distance themselves from this nonsense.
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I think you're looking at it wrong. In the United States, the point of the government is not to take care of the people. It's to do the absolute minimum and stay out of the way. That's essentially what the point of our government is. The "Republic" is to ensure that the MINORITY of states, cannot impose their will on the MAJORITY of states. Does this make sense? If 40 states believe abortion is wrong, but 10 states believe it's right... well, those 10 states cannot force those other 40 to allow it. Thus, you have what we have now... which is where the states decide independently.
You are certainly welcome to believe in any form of government you want, but this is the government that WE have chosen, and it's been pretty successful. And with you poking a judgemental finger at my dad, and disparaging my favorite Constitution, I will remind you that 90% of Canada's population sits within 100 miles of the border of the United States. So we definitely did something right.
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