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williegoat
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MAY 26, 03:36 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
Jake,
I agree with just about everything stated but, who isn't allowed to legally possess a firearm? Felons are not normally allowed, maybe others in different states. Our Constitution states no infringement and although I do realize there are folks out there that can't handle the responsibility of possessing a firearm, what is the justification to not allow them to the same rights we all have?
I've seen no reason this 18-year-old shouldn't have been allowed to buy/own a firearm, right up to the point he shot his grandmother. At least nothing has been reported. There may be a history that we're not aware of yet. Please don't take this (in anyway) of supporting this evil person but, I can't see punishing every other 18-year-old for the acts of a few evil doers by taking their right to possess a firearm away. Not that you have suggested that.
From what has been reported, the school had a policy of locked doors while in operation. Obviously, the doors were not secured. According to the TX DPS, there was no security officer present at the school when this occurred. Lots of bad information being spread. I'm sure there will be legal consequences to the school district for not following their own policy but, this all comes down to one very troubled teen who obviously lacked responsible adult supervision at several points in his life. I am interested to learn more about this teenager and hope we all learn something from that knowledge.
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This is exactly my opinion. Infringement on the right to keep and bear arms is exactly what got people in NY killed.
I underlined and highlighted a sentence near the end of your text. This is where our focus should be. This is the cause of the problem. Focusing on guns is only perpetuating the problem.
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Patrick
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MAY 26, 04:20 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by williegoat:
Patrick would rather insult an entire country than have a civil discussion about the facts.
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It's rather difficult to have a "civil discussion" online with someone who apparently can't read. I've said nothing negative about the US anywhere in this thread.
| quote | Originally posted by williegoat:
I am fed up with leftists...
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Oh, here we go. Knew that was coming. Yep, hang a label on someone, then dismiss anything they may have to say.
| quote | Originally posted by williegoat:
Yeah, I am pissed. If you cannot or will not help, get out of my face.
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Good, stay that way. Write a tune about it.
Meanwhile, Todd has compared the US to any number of third world countries (and he's apparently okay with that  ), and 2.5 wants me to watch yet another video. Good times in P&R!!! 
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2.5
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MAY 26, 04:26 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
I've said nothing negative about ... |
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Instead of claiming you are not being understood, one could try to rephrase, use other sources that people might understand, bring up history, facts, etc.
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2.5
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MAY 26, 04:32 PM
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Patrick
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MAY 26, 04:35 PM
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Oh gawd, another video...
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2.5
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MAY 26, 04:39 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Oh gawd, another video... |
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At least you are predictable Mr Toad  My videos differ, your response doesnt seem to.
There is a post above that vid post as well.[This message has been edited by 2.5 (edited 05-26-2022).]
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theBDub
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MAY 26, 04:42 PM
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Most violent crime was declining for decades before the last few years. Guns haven't gotten easier to get. So it's not as simple as just "guns exist." Clearly there is a cultural/systemic issue at play. But that same access to social media, technology, education, mental health, culture, etc. is elsewhere, so it's not as simple as just "it's a culture problem" or "it's a mental health problem."
Here's the thing. We could probably drastically reduce mass shootings, or at least school shootings like this one, by limiting access to guns. That's a fairly simple deduction by looking at other countries. We're way out there. I do believe gun control would help resolve some of what we see...
Now that the Republicans are mad at me, here is where I piss off Democrats...
I don't think it's worth losing our second amendment rights over.
We shouldn't be so willing to give up our right to arm ourselves. I don't think there should be many restrictions on private property at all. Why shouldn't I be able to own a tank, as long as I don't kill someone with it? Obviously, it gets a little hairier when you ramp up to nuclear warheads, so there is a line somewhere, but in general we should not feel comfortable having a ton of rules around what weapons we can and can't own.
Practically? I guess something has to be in place. I am not that opinionated on what that small line should be, I just know I want it to be small.
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Patrick
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MAY 26, 04:42 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 2.5:
Instead of claiming you are not being understood, one could try to rephrase, use other sources that people might understand, bring up history, facts, etc.
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My opening post was written in plain English. It's the only language I know. If you have a problem understanding anything in particular that I've stated, quote it and ask me about it. I'm not "rephrasing" everything I've posted.
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2.5
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MAY 26, 04:47 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
My opening post was written in plain English. It's the only language I know. If you have a problem understanding anything in particular that I've stated, quote it and ask me about it. I'm not "rephrasing" everything I've posted. |
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I do not, thus my responses, which you did not respond to .
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Patrick
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MAY 26, 04:48 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by theBDub:
Here's the thing. We could probably drastically reduce mass shootings, or at least school shootings like this one, by limiting access to guns.
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You sonofabitch, you've attacked America! Willie and the poor boys will be by shortly to straighten you out.[This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 05-26-2022).]
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