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sanderson
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MAR 07, 12:06 AM
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| quote | | Originally posted by maryjane: And Sanderson--now I get it. You "27mmpg". That's 27 Million Miles Per Gallon? Not bad at all.
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I drive mostly downhill with a perpetual tailwind 
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USFiero
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MAR 13, 11:46 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by myself, USFiero on 3/4/2005: Quick! Go gas up RIGHT NOW! I heard on the news that an up to 20 cent per gallon jump in gas prices MAY occur next week.
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| quote | Originally posted by me, USFiero on 3/12/2005: Well, since I last posted premium gas went from 1.99 to 2.14 per gallon. |
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Gas today is at 2.25 at the same station I tracked above.... here it is a year later, and again on the news while driving to Richmond I hear in the next week we shall see another 20 cent per gallon rise. Now, it may be my imagination, but I have noticed increases in consumer goods, mostly groceries. I wonder how much impact another increase will affect the American and ultimately the world economies. Not to think America is the center of the Universe, but our consumer based economy does drive the economies in many smaller nations, keeping them just this side of being a third world country. Throw the potential of the bird flu (if it should mutate?) into the mix and the disaster will be historic in the world's history. What a bad time for Americans to have such a low opinion of their government.
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USFiero
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MAR 18, 08:46 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by fierobear: Sorry, Liberals. It looks like your beloved end of the world will have to wait.
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The end(times) is/are in sight... gas at the discount station is $2.47/gal today. Another dollar to go to hit Katrina pices. [This message has been edited by USFiero (edited 03-18-2006).]
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fierobear
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MAR 18, 11:14 PM
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| quote | | Originally posted by USFiero: The end(times) is/are in sight... gas at the discount station is $2.47/gal today. Another dollar to go to hit Katrina pices.
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So what's your point? Demand is up all over the world (rising demand, supply NOT rising), and the price of gas *still* hasn't caught up with inflation.
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Formula88
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MAR 19, 11:47 AM
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| quote | | Originally posted by fierobear: So what's your point? Demand is up all over the world (rising demand, supply NOT rising), and the price of gas *still* hasn't caught up with inflation.
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What date are you using as a reference for your inflation comparison? As you can see, like most commodities, the price - adjusted for inflation - has fluctuated over the years. For the longest period of time, the adjusted price fell around $2.00 - $2.50 per gallon. We're comparable with that, and slightly above it. The only times gas prices went much higher was at the beginning of the automotive era, during the Great Depression, and in the early 80's. The price spike in 1981 was the highest since before World War II. And we're pretty close to that historical high. So, what do you think the adjusted price should be? $3.00? $4.00? More?
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USFiero
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MAR 19, 10:22 PM
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To be honest, I don't think pointing only to gas to make some vague point about the economy is really any good. I mean, if it were a real poblem, we would all be driving hybrids a long time ago. And Reagan wouldn't have been able to repeal the energy tax credit back in the 80's. America got itself into this mess of being led by the nose over fuel prices, and really asked for it with over-the-top SUV purchases. Everybody lives on a too-tight budget, and a 10-20% increase in a common commodity like gas can really upset the week-to-week expenses of a household. I mean, here at my house it's four tankfulls of gas among all the cars a week, average 11 gallon tanks (10.5 in the Fiero, it gets two fillups a week). 44 x .20 (so far in the last week) = $8.80 with no gurantee it will end. That's about what two home-cooked meals cost to make or almost another four gallons of gas - 80-90 miles avg of travel - two days for me to and from work. And that's just immediate costs. There will be increase costs in food because of fuel costs to farms, pocessing plants, packaging, delivery and other petroleum products... although petroleum jelly hasn't seemed to have gone up as much....
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USFiero
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MAR 19, 10:52 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by fierobear:Demand is up all over the world (rising demand, supply NOT rising), and the price of gas *still* hasn't caught up with inflation.
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I am willing to bet the process of finding, pumping, processing, transporting, distributing, etc has gotten a whole lot more efficient. That's how the oil-producing countries have gotten so wealthy so quickly. Not to mention our cars (in spite of our increased demand) have gotten more efficient MPG wise. Let's see... gas was about .26 a gallon when my parents bought their house in 1959 fo $26,000. Gas is now almost 10 times as much but their house is worth seven times as much. Does that mean gas has exceeded inflation? A macDonald's hambuger was 5 cents back then, now a cheap burger is a buck, a twenty-fold increase. Is gas way behind? Economies of scale aren't linear. Inflation is a complex measurment. My first computer was $2400 in 1989 and outdated before I paid it off. I built this one fo less than $300 out of pocket, and it runs circles aound the best computer avalible three and a half years ago. I could go on, but I'm tired and this isn't that much fun to debate. I just thought it interesting to track the hoopla ove gas pices and the doom and gloom forcasts associated with it to take the edge off those perrineal reports of economic crisis. Fierobear seems to blame it on the liberal media, while I believe it's a whip used by anyone who finds it convenient to sti the herd.... our ultra-conservative president included, who says we're 'addicted' to oil. As a former addict himself, I guess he's got a right to talk.aaa and why do we care about what happens in the middle east more than, say... Africa? You know, if Sierra Leone turned up to have enomous oil reserves we'd be there in a heartbeat to help end over thirty years of civil war and genocide and impose democracy. Yes, I'm tired. and cranky. and feeling a bit cynical. Our next president will be an Democrat because of this. Nice going, Bush (and the whole republican party). Way to make Clinton look like the best thing since sliced cheese. Man, i hope there's a strong Independant presidential ticket in 2008, or Mark Warner will be our next Prez. Not a bad thing mind you, another fiscally conservative democrat.
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USFiero
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APR 10, 04:58 PM
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my usual station was $2.65 today, but I found $2.59 and filled up. The news suggested we will be seeing $3 a gallon by weeks end.
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86GT3.4DOHC
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APR 10, 05:15 PM
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All I know is eexon or one of the big companies, I forget which, posted the biggest profit increase in world history last year, to the tune of 30+ billion dollars, so Im not buying the crap about it cost more because they pay more
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Toddster
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APR 10, 05:22 PM
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For all of you how are considering switching to ethanol I am more than happy to act as your Realtor to buy that farm land to grow some corn on.
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