Blue-state meltdown (Page 8/11)
rinselberg FEB 12, 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Translation = You are right Todd, the Republicans have cut crime by 200% since they took over Miami. But I'm not happy about these facts, and since I can't counter them, I'll deflect and share some other tangential information to change the subject.


I'm prepared to believe that at least some categories of crime are characterized by lower numbers and lower percentages (per capita) for Miami, since Republicans "took over Miami"—a statement that needs to be explained with more precision.

But what is there to support "cut crime by 200%"..?

Without further explanation, there's no way I can credit this assertion as credible.
olejoedad FEB 12, 03:42 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

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Without further explanation, there's no way I can credit this assertion as credible.



As if you even could or would.....

You fancy yourself as a fact checker.
I find that laughable, given your sources of disinformation.

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rinselberg FEB 12, 04:20 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Translation = You are right Todd, the Republicans have cut crime by 200% since they took over Miami. But I'm not happy about these facts, and since I can't counter them, I'll deflect and share some other tangential information to change the subject.


How can anyone reduce crime by more than 100%?

Did the Republicans in charge of Miami create "negative crime"?

Are there now street gangs in Miami that are cornering pedestrians and giving them money? Going up and down the city and fixing up anything that has been damaged or is in need of repair? Painting any buildings that look like they could use fresh paint?

It boggles the mind.
williegoat FEB 12, 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

How can anyone reduce crime by more than 100%?

Did the Republicans in charge of Miami create "negative crime"?

Are there now street gangs in Miami that are cornering pedestrians and giving them money? Going up and down the city and fixing up anything that has been damaged or is in need of repair? Painting any buildings that look like they could use fresh paint?

It boggles the mind.


Report: Criminal Migrant Gangs Target NYC to Commit Crimes Then Go to Florida to Spend the Money

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Criminal Illegal immigrant gangs target New York City to commit their crimes, knowing they will get away with it, and then head to Florida to spend the money, according to NYC law enforcement sources. NYPD Detectives reportedly told CNN’s Chief Law Enforcement and Intelligence analyst John Miller that the criminal gangs return to the sanctuary city to commit more crimes because they know if they try it in Florida they’ll “go to jail.”
williegoat FEB 12, 04:34 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Are there now street gangs in Miami that are cornering pedestrians and giving them money?


So, yes.
82-T/A [At Work] FEB 12, 05:07 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

I'm prepared to believe that at least some categories of crime are characterized by lower numbers and lower percentages (per capita) for Miami, since Republicans "took over Miami"—a statement that needs to be explained with more precision.

But what is there to support "cut crime by 200%"..?

Without further explanation, there's no way I can credit this assertion as credible.








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Originally posted by rinselberg:How can anyone reduce crime by more than 100%?

Did the Republicans in charge of Miami create "negative crime"?

Are there now street gangs in Miami that are cornering pedestrians and giving them money? Going up and down the city and fixing up anything that has been damaged or is in need of repair? Painting any buildings that look like they could use fresh paint?

It boggles the mind.



Hey, it's OK... I don't have a degree specifically in math. I only got up to Calculus 2, so I'll take the L.

Republicans reduced crime by over 70%. It's actually gone down even further since 2016... I'll have to find the numbers, but it's even lower today.


Here's something more current, from 2 days ago...

2023 in Miami was the lowest murder rate on record since Miami began recording it: https://www.cbsnews.com/mia...in-murders-for-2023/

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BingB FEB 13, 09:00 AM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:


Can you please explain to me a few things:
- Why are the majority of crimes committed by people who are registered or lean Democrat?
- Why do Democrats make up the preponderance of those classified as mentally ill?
- Are the two above as a result of Democrat policies, or does the Democrat party merely attract these kinds of people?

I'm happy to share my thoughts after you can reasonably answer the three questions above without deflection, please.




The causes of crime are complicated, but empirical evidence proves that it is not related to party affiliation. For example, rural areas with a majority democrat population and controlled by democrats have LOWER crime rates than urban areas and big cities with majority republican population and controlled by republicans. Since Democrats control an overwhelming majority of big cities then the crime rate among democrats is going to be higher. So there is a statistical correlation but no causation. It would be like blaming sunburn on Republicans policies because more people get sunburns in Florida than in Vermont.


Mental illness is even more complicated. . . .

1. An overwhelming majority of people treated for mental illness seek out the treatment themselves. So most statistics are based on "self-reporting". Among conservatives there is more of a stigma attached to mental illness. It is often labeled as a weakness in character or even a sin. So a certain part of the answer is simply that more Democrats admit to mental illness and seek treatment than Republicans who are in denial or too ashamed to admit a problem and seek treatment.

2. Then there is the fact that people with higher IQs are more likely to suffer from metal issues ( as well as allergies, asthma, and autoimmune disease). https://bigthink.com/neurop...e%20mood%20disorder.

3. And finally, there is the problem with define "mental illness". For example, a person who believes something that has no basis in physical reality has a "delusional disorder". but Christians do not include themselves under the category of "mentally ill". So if we follow strict definitions I feel that just as many Republicans kave "mental disorders" as Democrats.
williegoat FEB 13, 09:06 AM

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Originally posted by BingB:

3. And finally, there is the problem with define "mental illness". For example, a person who believes something that has no basis in physical reality has a "delusional disorder". but Christians do not include themselves under the category of "mentally ill". So if we follow strict definitions I feel that just as many Republicans kave "mental disorders" as Democrats.


Preserved
ray b FEB 13, 09:41 AM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:

They infiltrated the Biden administration?



nixon watergate was 90% cubans miami typical corruption

nixon was a crook CHEATED TO EXTEND THE WAR

raygun was traitor TRADED WITH IRAN TO KEEP THE HOSTAGES

BuSh2 recession/depression

rump plague inflation and TREASON
cliffw FEB 13, 11:49 AM

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Originally posted by BingB:
... empirical evidence proves ...

... a person who believes something that has no basis in physical reality has a "delusional disorder".



Which is it ?


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Originally posted by BingB:
Mental illness is even more complicated. . . .

An overwhelming majority of people treated for mental illness seek out the treatment themselves. So most statistics are based on "self-reporting". Among conservatives there is more of a stigma attached to mental illness. It is often labeled as a weakness in character or even a sin. So a certain part of the answer is simply that more Democrats admit to mental illness and seek treatment than Republicans who are in denial or too ashamed to admit a problem and seek treatment.



How much does a can of bullzhit cost now a days ?