Let's talk about the media, and what journalism should be in a free society (Page 8/38)
ray b FEB 28, 11:17 AM

quote
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
I think your definition of lies are truths that are inconvenient to you...



HOW IS IT YOUR SIDE NEVER NOTICES REAL BS

like the lying tucker snarlson fired by fox
still loved respected and BELIEVED BY THE RIGHT

OR THE RUMP NO QUESTIONS of his constant BS and real crimes
his real convictions for real crimes are hand waved away

while joe is lied about endlessly
one would think we are in a major depression from the Gop doom and gloom repeated endlessly
not setting record job growth are over the top GDP numbers

the Gop wants a depression and trys hard to create one
and no rightwing notices or cares at all
they just spew more lies
williegoat FEB 28, 11:43 AM

quote
Originally posted by ray b:


HOW IS IT YOUR SIDE NEVER NOTICES REAL BS

like the lying tucker snarlson fired by fox
still loved respected and BELIEVED BY THE RIGHT


Wait a minute...wait just one darned minute, Baba Looey...I thought you said Fox loves lies. Wouldn't they therefore love Tucker?

Hey! I just noticed "real BS". Maybe I should join a "side"...Nah, that would cause the island to tip over.

Where'd I leave my beer?



Gotta get ready for my cult meeting...
ray b FEB 28, 11:53 AM
sure did love him and his numbers

UNTIL

it cost them big time
750M

money matters follow the money
were is the rump's money going going GONE
AND BECAUSE OF LIES

btw good beer does not need stuff in it
Doug85GT FEB 28, 12:45 PM
I just ran into an example of "journalism".

Arizona GOP advances bill legalizing killing undocumented migrants on suspicion of trespassing

That is a really scary headline. Legalizing killing human beings just for trespassing is not justifiable.

Then I looked at the source material.

The actual proposed law: https://www.azleg.gov/legte...2R/bills/HB2843P.pdf

Here is where it authorizes deadly force:


quote
B. A person may use deadly physical force under subsection A only
in the defense of himself or third persons as described in sections 13-405
and 13-406.



hmm. That does not sound like a blanket authorization to use deadly force. What do the referenced sections say?

https://www.azleg.gov/ars/13/00405.htm


quote
13-405. Justification; use of deadly physical force

A. A person is justified in threatening or using deadly physical force against another:

1. If such person would be justified in threatening or using physical force against the other under section 13-404, and

2. When and to the degree a reasonable person would believe that deadly physical force is immediately necessary to protect himself against the other's use or attempted use of unlawful deadly physical force.

B. A person has no duty to retreat before threatening or using deadly physical force pursuant to this section if the person is in a place where the person may legally be and is not engaged in an unlawful act.



https://www.azleg.gov/ars/13/00406.htm

quote
13-406. Justification; defense of a third person

A person is justified in threatening or using physical force or deadly physical force against another to protect a third person if, under the circumstances as a reasonable person would believe them to be, such person would be justified under section 13-404 or 13-405 in threatening or using physical force or deadly physical force to protect himself against the unlawful physical force or deadly physical force a reasonable person would believe is threatening the third person he seeks to protect.



That does not expand the use of deadly force at all. If anything it makes it clear that use of deadly force is still restricted to defense of your own life or that of another person.

I found and read the actual text of the law and its references in lest than 5 minutes. I am positive it took longer than that to write that article.

The "journalist" who wrote that article is either: A. Really bad at her job or B. Deliberately lying to push an agenda.
rinselberg FEB 28, 01:35 PM
I think that was likely an exception to the particular journo's consistent standard of excellence.

This is a list of other recent articles from Axios reporter April Rubin. I haven't read any of these other articles, but I'm looking at the headlines, and the other headlines are not as suspicious as "Arizona GOP advances bill legalizing killing undocumented migrants on suspicion of trespassing."

https://www.axios.com/authors/arubin
williegoat FEB 28, 01:59 PM

quote
Originally posted by ray b:

btw good beer does not need stuff in it



Child, you haven't got a clue.


edit: This is not my picture.

[This message has been edited by williegoat (edited 02-28-2024).]

williegoat FEB 28, 02:23 PM
I took this picture many years ago in a small town in southern Sinaloa. They told me that in the jail, the scorpions were so big that you could hear their bodies clicking as they climbed the walls.
williegoat FEB 28, 02:30 PM

quote
Originally posted by Doug85GT:

I just ran into an example of "journalism".

Arizona GOP advances bill legalizing killing undocumented migrants on suspicion of trespassing

That is a really scary headline. Legalizing killing human beings just for trespassing is not justifiable.

Then I looked at the source material.

The actual proposed law: https://www.azleg.gov/legte...2R/bills/HB2843P.pdf

Here is where it authorizes deadly force:


That does not expand the use of deadly force at all. If anything it makes it clear that use of deadly force is still restricted to defense of your own life or that of another person.

I found and read the actual text of the law and its references in lest than 5 minutes. I am positive it took longer than that to write that article.

The "journalist" who wrote that article is either: A. Really bad at her job or B. Deliberately lying to push an agenda.


Pay attention, boys and girls, this is how it's done.
82-T/A [At Work] FEB 28, 03:10 PM

quote
Originally posted by williegoat:

Child, you haven't got a clue.


edit: This is not my picture.





So, are you supposed to eat this? Because that's pretty hard-core... I've eaten a Sour Cream & Chives cricket before... but not a scorpion.
olejoedad FEB 28, 03:25 PM

quote
Originally posted by rinselberg:

I think that was likely an exception to the particular journo's consistent standard of excellence.

This is a list of other recent articles from Axios reporter April Rubin. I haven't read any of these other articles, but I'm looking at the headlines, and the other headlines are not as suspicious as "Arizona GOP advances bill legalizing killing undocumented migrants on suspicion of trespassing."

https://www.axios.com/authors/arubin



If you haven't read her articles, how can you deem she has a consistent standard of excellence?