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BingB DEC 28, 12:33 PM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:

The Democrats long term strategy is to undermine our citizens confidence in all of our systems of government,


By claiming that lawful elections are fixed?

By claiming that all the courts that rejected all claims of widespread voter fraud are crooked?

By claiming that a prosecutors who bring charges against Donal Trump are corrupt?

By claiming that all currently seated government officials are part of a corrupt "swamp"?

Democrats do a lot of stupid stuff, but the republicans are the ones trying to destroy all confidence in our systems of government.
BingB DEC 28, 12:37 PM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:


Probably because it's true. Sorry that you're not old enough to remember when this was a country where the government wasn't up your ass at every turn.


Ah, the good old days when corporations could pollute the air and water as much as they wanted and did not have to serve colored people if they didn't want to.
BingB DEC 28, 12:52 PM

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[B]Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]
This is the same technology that was ILLEGALLY used to spy on reporter James Rosen of Fox News by the Obama administration.




There was nothing illegal about that. It was a legitimate investigation into a leak that affected national security. It led to Stephen Kim pleading guilty to a felony for disclosing classified information.

Part of the Presidents job is protecting the country. Obama was just doing his job.

Not sure about the other incidents you listed. I need to look them up.
olejoedad DEC 28, 12:54 PM

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Originally posted by BingB:

Ah, the good old days when corporations could pollute the air and water as much as they wanted and did not have to serve colored people if they didn't want to.



It was the Republican party that created the EPA and voted to pass the Civil Rights act.
BingB DEC 28, 01:09 PM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:


It was the Republican party that created the EPA and voted to pass the Civil Rights act.



So now you are saying that the Republicans are the ones to blame for the government getting up everyone's ASS?


BTW The Civil Rights Act was pushed through congress by a Democrat President and a Democrat Senate Majority Leader. A majority of BOTH parties voted in favor of it.

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olejoedad DEC 28, 01:12 PM

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Originally posted by BingB:

Ah, the good old days when corporations could pollute the air and water as much as they wanted and did not have to serve colored people if they didn't want to.



Fortunately, those problems were corrected in the past.
The EPA was created during the Nixon administration, and the Civil Rights Act during the Johnson administration.
olejoedad DEC 28, 01:15 PM

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Originally posted by BingB:
The Civil Rights Act was pushed through congress by a Democrat President and a majority of BOTH parties voted for it.



Johnson didn't push the Civil Rights Act through Congress, he signed it reluctantly, as Congress would have overridden his veto.

You might want to check the percentages of the parties that voted for and against the CRA.

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BingB DEC 28, 01:38 PM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:

You might want to check the percentages of the parties that voted for and against the CRA.





Are you claiming I am wrong about a majority of both parties voting in favor of the Civil Rights Act? If so then maybe you should check the numbers.



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Originally posted by olejoedad:


Johnson didn't push the Civil Rights Act through Congress, he signed it reluctantly, as Congress would have overridden his veto.





https://www.archives.gov/pu...mer/civil-rights-act


Just five days after John F. Kennedy was assassinated in November 1963, Lyndon B. Johnson went before Congress and spoke to a nation still stunned from the events in Dallas that had shocked the world.

Johnson made it clear he would pursue the slain President's legislative agenda—especially a particular bill that Kennedy had sought but that faced strong and vehement opposition from powerful southern Democrats.

"No memorial oration or eulogy could more eloquently honor President Kennedy's memory than the earliest possible passage of the civil rights bill for which he fought so long," Johnson told the lawmakers.

Then, serving notice on his fellow southern Democrats that they were in for a fight, he said: "We have talked long enough in this country about equal rights. We have talked for one hundred years or more. It is time now to write the next chapter, and to write it in the books of law."

It begins in 1957, with Johnson as Senate majority leader, engineering passage of the 1957 Civil Rights Act, a feat generally regarded as impossible until he did it.

"To see Lyndon Johnson get that bill through, almost vote by vote," said Pultizer Prize–winning LBJ biographer Robert Caro, "is to see not only legislative power but legislative genius."
ray b DEC 28, 02:04 PM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:


Johnson didn't push the Civil Rights Act through Congress, he signed it reluctantly, as Congress would have overridden his veto.

You might want to check the percentages of the parties that voted for and against the CRA.




you were how old when this happened ?

I was a teenager then

your are misinformed
while LBJ had fears about the civil rights bills
he supported them
unlike most of the south

remember I lived and went to schools both in the north with everyone
and in all white southern schools before 65

the cons were cons first and still are
just better dog whistlers now days

''blood and iron'' said the rump
and they claim not to get it

well we heard it
theBDub DEC 28, 03:26 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
What I find frustrating is that time and time again... Democrats do things knowing full-well that what they're doing is "unconstitutional," but they do it for no other reason than for political capital and attention. Everyone knows this is going to get thrown out in Supreme Court, and everyone also knows it's completely unconstitutional. So why are they doing it? Because they want to create drama. What Democrat "strategists" don't realize is that for all of their manufactured drama and emotional outrage, they do things which directly affect confidence in the U.S. Government, and the whole idea of the state. This is directly counter-intuitive to their goal, which causes people to either lose interest in their party, join the Republican party, or worse... fuels the growth of organizations like ANTIFA who view both Government and conservatism as antithetical to them.



The suit in Colorado was placed by Republican voters, not Democrats. I don't doubt that the national Democrat party helped them in some way, and maybe even came up with the idea, but it's not like it was filed by them.

Colorado has a law and process for testing eligibility of a candidate, and that is what this was about.


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Originally posted by blackrams:

Well, to get back on topic, CO SC decided one thing, MI decided the other way.

Michigan Supreme Court rejects 14th Amendment election challenge to Trump

https://www.msn.com/en-us/n...to-trump/ar-AA1m69Mu

It seems that MI agrees with innocent until proven guilty while CO SC finds just the opposite.
While not being a proponent of DJT, it's amazing that CO SC determined he was not qualified to be on the ballot. DJT has not been charged, tried nor found guilty of insurrection and yet CO says he's not qualified. Tell me again how this isn't political......................



Michigan doesn't have the same laws as CO. I see issues with CO's ruling but don't know if it's right or wrong. Michigan's seems right to me. They aren't the same thing.