Biden to ban gas stoves (Page 8/13)
82-T/A [At Work] MAR 01, 08:15 AM
Seriously, this is like the dumbest ****ing thing I've ever heard in my life. I've really about had it with this stupid **** ... I mean it. I cannot get over how completely retarded the Democrats have gotten. I'm sure not everyone is a total moron, but the **** that gets pushed around today. Why is this something they're even worrying about right now?

Look at all the problems that are going on right now... the vast majority of which have been DIRECTLY caused by the Biden administration. Even the war in Ukraine, the vast majority of America polled said that they believed Putin would not have attacked Ukraine, had Trump still been president. And even if you don't want to believe that it would be true... Biden still could have amassed troops and weapons in Ukraine well before the attack happened... you know, when they started amassing troops in March of 2021 on the border, and Biden did nothing for the entire year of 2021.

Even the spy balloons... Biden waited until he was busted and only then did he do something. His entire administration runs on ultra-liberal focus-groups that are terrified... absolutely terrified of making decisions. Every decision means a political ramification, which only means one thing, they will ALWAYS make the wrong decision, the first time, every single time... sometimes we don't get second chances, like with his actions in Afghanistan.

I'm just beside myself with how stupid this administration is... I mean, completely... completely retarded, to the truest sense of the word. The guy is a ****ing idiot. I've never seen someone so wildly incompetent, completely oblivious, and terrified of making a decision. Even at his best... maybe 20 years ago, he was still a complete fool.


I can't wait for 2024 so this moron can finish up his last days in retirement, and not in the white house.

I honestly cannot point to a SINGLE thing... not a single thing he's done that has been actually GOOD for the United States. Can anyone point to anything? This is a serious question. And Rinse, please do not post a MEME image from Twitter that lists 100 things, 90% of which belong to Trump (like building a new intel plant in the U.S.), or things that are grossly misrepresented (like, he stopped COVID or some nonsense).
rinselberg MAR 01, 08:01 PM
I don't think it's all that surprising that gas-fired kitchen ranges and ovens are being scrutinized in terms of their adverse affects on humans. (And pets. Let's not forget Fido.)

Every gas-fired cooking range is a fire that's burning inside of a home, apartment, or a hotel or restaurant kitchen.

How many other fires do people use and depend on inside of their homes?

Fireplaces. Gas-fired water heaters. And..? Is there anything else, really, that's comparable, in terms of a chemical combustion process inside of homes and apartments?

I don't think of myself as being "Rad-Left" (radically leftist) about this. I think there has to be a weighing of the pros and cons... the "tradeoffs"... including what's at stake in terms of economic activity and in terms of personal and government revenues and outlays. The money of it. The "Benjamins".

I think in terms of a gradual phasing out of gas-fired kitchens, and I'm not against government lending a hand in this matter.

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Gas-fired dryers for home laundry. And gas furnaces and air conditioners. OK, I shouldn't have overlooked that. But I think the placement of gas-fired cooking ranges inside of kitchens sets them apart from these other gas-fired appliances, and from fireplaces.

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82-T/A [At Work] MAR 02, 07:39 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

How many other fires do people use and depend on inside of their homes?

Fireplaces. Gas-fired water heaters. And..? Is there anything else, really, that's comparable, in terms of a chemical combustion process inside of homes and apartments?

I don't think of myself as being "Rad-Left" (radically leftist) about this. I think there has to be a weighing of the pros and cons... the "tradeoffs"... including what's at stake in terms of economic activity and in terms of personal and government revenues and outlays. The money of it. The "Benjamins".

I think in terms of a gradual phasing out of gas-fired kitchens, and I'm not against government lending a hand in this matter.





Again, let's look at this critically. We are in a mad-rush to decriminalize drugs, of pretty much all kinds... which clearly are immeasurably bad for us both physically, emotionally, and economically... and yet, we are super-focusing on gas stoves, of which there is no actual concrete evidence showing that it causes harm ... other than some garbage studies that show that old run-down apartments in crack town, that happen to also use gas, have a higher propensity for their occupants to have cancer.
rinselberg MAR 02, 01:59 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Again, let's look at this critically. We are in a mad-rush to decriminalize drugs, of pretty much all kinds... which clearly are immeasurably bad for us both physically, emotionally, and economically... and yet, we are super-focusing on gas stoves, of which there is no actual concrete evidence showing that it causes harm ... other than some garbage studies that show that old run-down apartments in crack town, that happen to also use gas, have a higher propensity for their occupants to have cancer.


I think you are grossly mischaracterizing the research, which correlates gas-fired kitchen ranges and ovens with higher incidences of childhood asthma (in particular) and other respiratory and cardiovascular symptoms.

It's not just a statistical correlation. The air contaminants have been measured by going into homes with gas-fired kitchens and analyzing air samples. Anyone could scroll back through this thread to see exactly how the air contaminants are named and described.

Who is "super-focusing" on gas stoves? It's the people who want to exploit this who are super-focusing on gas stoves. The demagogues who want to foment populist pro-gas and gas-supremacy sentiment and channel it against the Democrats as a wedge issue.

I'm looking forward to Congressional committee hearings which will be televised on C-SPAN. I won't see them, but perhaps I will see news reports about it. Let the researchers describe their methods, how they establish a control or baseline using homes that have electric kitchens but are otherwise similar to the homes with gas cooking ranges, and how they collect the relevant medical data to assess the impacts.

Lower income families can discourage their children from using "recreational" drugs, but they can't discourage their children from having an appetite for hot, freshly-prepared meals.
Wichita MAR 02, 05:18 PM

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WonderBoy MAR 02, 11:30 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:
Lower income families can discourage their children from using "recreational" drugs, but they can't discourage their children from having an appetite for hot, freshly-prepared meals.


Can we also discourage schools from not spreading bs lgbtqabcdefg? Since WHEN are families/parents allowed to raise their children in clown world of USA Today? You speak/type/compute with a forked tongue/half baked TTL chip.
Another dodge, duck and weave.
Only the elite will have warm meat to cook and eat. Everyone else will eat zee bugs and drink East Palestine OH ground water. We the citizens must pay for the "safe" and "free" clean needles and injection sites. Your Dependswearer In Chief is raising the costs of everything.

I guess we the people can eat the "blade-kill' from the wind farms, and eat the whale blubber from the dead whales washing ashore in areas testing the ocean floor for offshore slice n dicers.

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randye MAR 03, 03:59 AM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:


I'm just beside myself with how stupid this administration is... I mean, completely... completely retarded, to the truest sense of the word. The guy is a ****ing idiot. I've never seen someone so wildly incompetent, completely oblivious, and terrified of making a decision. Even at his best... maybe 20 years ago, he was still a complete fool.


I can't wait for 2024 so this moron can finish up his last days in retirement, and not in the white house.


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rinselberg MAR 03, 01:32 PM


Time's a wastin..!

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williegoat MAR 03, 02:27 PM
Replace gas stoves with stoves which run on electricity which is made by burning gas (40%) and coal (20%).

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