Fully Automated Luxury Communism (Page 8/9)
cliffw APR 23, 11:17 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:


Fully Automated Luxury Communism floating offshore wind energy turbine generators. Since Capitalism is no longer a "thing", everyone enjoys joint ownership of all essential infrastructure like these turbines.



What ... ?

Who pays for everything if everything is free ?

It's that simple.
rinselberg JUN 28, 12:08 PM
"What Would Happen If You Worked Only 8 Hours a Week?"

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The 2019 study, published in Social Science & Medicine, found that working just eight hours a week was enough to gain the well-being benefits of employment and that happiness and well-being did not increase alongside hours. Simply put, people working eight hours a week felt as happy as those working a full week and felt that their contributions to society were just as meaningful. . . .

The study was big. It used data from the UK Household Longitudinal Study, which held information on more than 80,000 people. The researchers looked at how changes in the number of hours people worked affected mental health over time and asked at what point a person's well-being improved. Basically, after that eight-hour shift, well-being plateaued, and working more did not increase it by any significant amount.



The researchers were not trying to establish that any society could function or function well if no one had a job that required them to work more than just 8 hours a week.

They were only looking at the psychological and emotional nexus that connects "having a job" with a "feeling of well being."

Reported by Daniel Fryer in Psychology Today; June 27, 2022.
https://www.psychologytoday...ed-only-8-hours-week
2.5 JUN 28, 04:38 PM
"You will own nothing and be happy."

Sorry, that is the opposite of independence
rinselberg JUN 28, 07:43 PM

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Originally posted by 2.5:
"You will own nothing and be happy."


Fair enough. But lest there be confusion, I am here to say that that sentence does not appear in the article that I just posted. Nor is there anything that parses as "Fully" or even "Partly Automated Luxury Communism." There are no references to "Communism" or "Socialism" in the article. Here's a little more from the article:

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At the beginning of this month, more than 3,300 workers in 70 UK companies began a six-month trial of a four-day working week. Its aim is to prove that you can decrease stress, and improve well-being, without affecting productivity.

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But back to the four-day working week. The pilot, running for six months, has been organised by the 4 Day Week Global in partnership with the thinktank Autonomy, the 4 Day Week Campaign, together with researchers at Cambridge University, Oxford University, and Boston College.

The trial is based on a 100:80:100 model, which means that workers will receive 100 percent of pay for 80 percent of the time, in exchange for maintaining 100 percent productivity.

Juliet Schor, a professor of sociology at Boston College and lead researcher on the pilot (which rolls out soon in Spain and Scotland), described it as a historic trial. “We’ll be analysing how employees respond to having an extra day off, in terms of stress and burnout, job and life satisfaction, health, sleep, energy use, travel, and many other aspects of life,” she said.

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82-T/A [At Work] JUN 28, 08:39 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

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The pilot, running for six months, has been organised by the 4 Day Week Global in partnership with the thinktank Autonomy, the 4 Day Week Campaign, together with researchers at Cambridge University, Oxford University, and Boston College.

The trial is based on a 100:80:100 model, which means that workers will receive 100 percent of pay for 80 percent of the time, in exchange for maintaining 100 percent productivity. Juliet Schor, a professor of sociology at Boston College and lead researcher on the pilot (which rolls out soon in Spain and Scotland), described it as a historic trial. “We’ll be analysing how employees respond to having an extra day off, in terms of stress and burnout, job and life satisfaction, health, sleep, energy use, travel, and many other aspects of life,” she said.





While my initial thought is that this would be fantastic, I don't think it's realistic. Let's say for example that they can maintain no loss of efficiency, so now it becomes law.

What then when people start to take it for granted and that 100% efficiency drops to 80%? Now there's a permanent 20% productivity loss, and employers are still paying 100%.
MidEngineManiac JUN 29, 02:19 AM
Socialism: Humans exploiting and destroying each other, and the planet, for their own personal gain and satisfaction.

Fortunately, we have Capitalism. Which works exactly the same.
2.5 JUN 29, 04:43 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

article: "The trial is based on a 100:80:100 model, which means that workers will receive 100 percent of pay for 80 percent of the time, in exchange for maintaining 100 percent productivity."



That I guess is called being efficient. A 20 % more efficient value to be exact? Akin to "when you get your work done you can go home"? Paid for the job not the time?

If the private businesses decided to do this without government meddling, so be it. Government meddling such as dictating a minimum wage.

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Hudini JUN 29, 04:48 PM
williegoat JUN 29, 04:57 PM
21st century feudalism
rinselberg JUL 01, 08:47 PM
I'll take The Future, for $25,000.

FALCON went global in 2061, a year that became an inflection point in the history of every nation's economy and society.

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