Blue-state meltdown (Page 7/11)
olejoedad FEB 11, 01:19 PM
Why do you cherrypick data to 'prove' your lame claims?

I don't do searches because I already know the results of the data, and you wouldn't listen even if someone force fed you.
I'm not trying to 'prove' a point - that's useless. It works better if you prove it to yourself.
But you won't, because you will cherrypick data to justify your beliefs.
So, GFY.
BingB FEB 11, 01:29 PM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:

Why do you cherrypick data to 'prove' your lame claims?

I don't do searches because I already know the results of the data, and you wouldn't listen even if someone force fed you.
I'm not trying to 'prove' a point - that's useless. It works better if you prove it to yourself.
But you won't, because you will cherrypick data to justify your beliefs.
So, GFY.




I "cherry pick" because I do not have to present all the data to prove my point. But since you don't mind being embarrassed by my research here is more

Springfield Missoure crime rate by year. Way above national average.

https://www.macrotrends.net...rime-rate-statistics

Caruthersville Missouri crime rate by year. Way above national averag

https://www.macrotrends.net...rime-rate-statistics


So you clearly do NOT know the results of the data. The claim that "Missouri is relatively crime free except for Kansas City and St Louis is 100% BS. I PROVED it with actual facts.
BingB FEB 11, 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani


During the period that Giuliani was mayor of NYC ('94-'00) the NATIONAL crime rate was cut almost in half from 9.0% to 5.2%.

I give Rudy some credit for turning around NYC, but he benefitted greatly from a nationwide drop in crime at the same time he was trying to reduce crime in NYC.
rinselberg FEB 11, 02:04 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

So, what you are saying is that no matter who is in charge, high crime is because of Republicans.

What about California and New York? Illinois and Michigan?


Democratic strongholds in California, New York, Illinois and Michigan are affected by national politics, and even though we currently have a Democrat for president and a razor-thin Democratic advantage in the U.S. Senate, the Republican Party is "muscular" at the national level.

And beyond that, Republicans do wield considerable power at the state level, even in states like New York, Illinois and Michigan where you might say that Democrats have more of an upper hand, overall.

California? I guess we're kind of "sui generis."

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williegoat FEB 11, 02:11 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

California? I guess we're kind of "sui generis."



You said it.
82-T/A [At Work] FEB 12, 07:58 AM

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Originally posted by BingB:
Democrats control most big cities. Big cities have higher crime rates. Therefore democrats have higher crime rates. But there is no "causation" connection between crime and democrats. It is just a correlation. This is proven by the facts that big cities that are controlled by Republicans also have higher crime rates. The high crime rates in these cities are not caused by any "republican policy" anymore than high crime rates in cities controlled by democrats are caused by any "democrat policy". Instead the high crime rate has to do with other issues like population density, poverty concentration, and opportunity.

Your claim that you don't care about the difference between "causation" and "correlation" is nothing more than you bragging about your ignorance. The difference between "causation" and "correlation" is a basic principle of logic. Ignoring it just makes you look uneducated.




This doesn't make any sense to me: "Your claim that you don't care about the difference between "causation" and "correlation" is nothing more than you bragging about your ignorance."

Best I can figure, you don't like the information, and you're not really sure what else to say. I don't want to say that I care less (let me correct that), I definitely think it's important to understand why, but I've already made up my mind; however, I'm interested in your take on why Democrats are more likely to be insane and commit crimes. You've not addressed this. You've simply stated that cities have more crime. That doesn't change the fact though that Democrats in these cities are more likely to commit crimes than Republicans are. Democrats in general are more likely to commit crimes anywhere, based on the links above. You also only addressed "crime," but seemed to completely ignore the mental illness discussion.

Can you please explain to me a few things:
- Why are the majority of crimes committed by people who are registered or lean Democrat?
- Why do Democrats make up the preponderance of those classified as mentally ill?
- Are the two above as a result of Democrat policies, or does the Democrat party merely attract these kinds of people?

I'm happy to share my thoughts after you can reasonably answer the three questions above without deflection, please.


EDIT: Something for you to chew on... Miami's crime rate has dropped 200% since Republicans took over the city back in 1996. It had been under Democrat control for the previous 50 years, and crime was so bad, they literally made a TV show about it (Miami Vice). It waffled back and forth through the 90s and early 2000s until it became solidly Republican in 2009, and crime dropped another 50% from that point today. Crime in Miami is effectively 200% less than it was when it was run entirely by Democrats, in an entirely Democrat state at the time. Most cities also show this... looking at NYC as it changes hands between Republican and Democrat governance.

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olejoedad FEB 12, 09:18 AM
VDH has something to say about 'the blue state meltdown' and more.....


https://amgreatness.com/202...leftism-doesnt-work/
ray b FEB 12, 09:25 AM
and three of 5 miami city commissioners are under indictment or being made to pay millions for their acts

mayor of miami is up to several scams
For Miami Mayor Francis Suarez's bad month, blame one ...
Sun Sentinel
https://www.sun-sentinel.com › 2023/07/06 › for-mia...
Jul 6, 2023 — As Suarez, the mayor of Miami, remains engulfed in a scandal surrounding his consulting work for a developer doing business with his city ...
chic commis is charged

and Miami Commissioner Joe Carollo's salary to be garnished ...he is a Gop and ex cop

cuba was totally corrupt
that is why they got commies

then the most corrupt cubans came to miami
guess what happened
olejoedad FEB 12, 09:42 AM
They infiltrated the Biden administration?
82-T/A [At Work] FEB 12, 01:07 PM

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Originally posted by ray b:

and three of 5 miami city commissioners are under indictment or being made to pay millions for their acts

mayor of miami is up to several scams
For Miami Mayor Francis Suarez's bad month, blame one ...
Sun Sentinel
https://www.sun-sentinel.com › 2023/07/06 › for-mia...
Jul 6, 2023 — As Suarez, the mayor of Miami, remains engulfed in a scandal surrounding his consulting work for a developer doing business with his city ...
chic commis is charged

and Miami Commissioner Joe Carollo's salary to be garnished ...he is a Gop and ex cop

cuba was totally corrupt
that is why they got commies

then the most corrupt cubans came to miami
guess what happened


Translation = You are right Todd, the Republicans have cut crime by 200% since they took over Miami. But I'm not happy about these facts, and since I can't counter them, I'll deflect and share some other tangential information to change the subject.