Another Dem that drank way too much of the Kool Aid. (Page 7/9)
olejoedad JAN 30, 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by BingB:
I think one of the biggest problems we have today are the people who believe themselves to be omniscient and have godlike powers to read the minds of other people.

They completely ignore what people actually say and do because they "know" through their magic powers what these other people are actually thinking.

it is pretty much impossible to have any type of logical discussion with a person like that because they do not even listen to what you actually say. they never feel like they have to produce any facts to back up their claims because "EVERYONE KNOWS". It is a logical fallacy made popular by Donald called "argumentum ad populum" or the "common belief fallacy". They just claim "everyone knows" without ever showing any proof that "everyone knows" the truth.



This fits here nicely.

Shouldn't you be teaching school to young impressionable minds instead of arguing with adults who seldom pay attention to you on an obscure car forum?

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williegoat JAN 30, 12:46 PM
From all news reports, public schools in Denver are at crisis level because of the mismanagement of the southern US border. I would imagine they need all hands on deck.
82-T/A [At Work] JAN 30, 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by BingB:So when the DOJ convicts and punishes someone from "the left" it is proof of their corrupt motives?

Then what does it mean when the DOJ does NOT convict or punish an accused who is from "the left"? Isn't that ALSO considered proof of the corrupt motives of the left?

Your mental gymnastics never fail to amaze me. You can take two totally conflicting result and bend them BOTH back to prove corrupt motives from the left.

And you see no problem with that at all.




Obviously, you are again intentionally misrepresenting everything we are saying. Democrats hem and haw and do absolutely whatever they can to limit or even NOT prosecute Democrat-leaning / affiliated people who are guilty of crimes. For Republicans who are guilty of anything, they intentionally throw the book at them, or even use the Justice system as a political machine to stigmatize Republicans.

President Trump is being tried Federally by the DOJ for things that don't even pale in comparison to what Hillary had / did. And this is completely ignoring the fact on whether or not you believe Trump used his authority as President at the time (which he absolutely had, this is fact) to declassify the things he decided to keep in his office, which at the time was a certified SCIF, and remained a certified SCIF after he left office.Hillary literally transmitted classified information back and forth on NON-government devices, and even on personally owned equipment, which she then paid NON-clearanced people to maintain and / or wipe. I mean... my God... if she had been literally anyone else, that person would be facing serious, serious jail time. Reality Winner went to jail for 5 years for sharing a SINGLE document. Petraeus lost his job, got a pension demotion, and served jail time for a SINGLE document that was barely classified "Confidential." A NAVY Sailor is serving 10 years in military prison for taking a selfie with a nuclear reactor on a sub. I mean... come on.

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blackrams JAN 30, 05:23 PM

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Originally posted by BingB:
So when the DOJ convicts and punishes someone from "the left" it is proof of their corrupt motives?

Then what does it mean when the DOJ does NOT convict or punish an accused who is from "the left"? Isn't that ALSO considered proof of the corrupt motives of the left?

Your mental gymnastics never fail to amaze me. You can take two totally conflicting result and bend them BOTH back to prove corrupt motives from the left.

And you see no problem with that at all.




Surely you can see how the sentencing of only one count when there's approximately 7499 other folks who aren't going to receive justice for what the convicted person did to them and not see that as corrupt? Yeah, they did just enough to be able to claim the DOJ reacted and got a conviction but, nothing compared to what the criminal could have been convicted of. He admitted his guilt. So, yeah the rest of Americans or at least 7499 others didn't see justice for crimes against them..

Rams
williegoat JAN 30, 05:40 PM

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Originally posted by BingB:

Your mental gymnastics never fail to amaze me.



What can I say? I'm just an amazing guy.
williegoat JAN 30, 05:50 PM
...and exceedingly handsome.
williegoat JAN 30, 05:51 PM
Not to mention, humble to a fault.
olejoedad JAN 30, 06:54 PM
I'm calling BS on your last post.....
rinselberg JAN 30, 07:02 PM

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Originally posted by blackrams:
Surely you can see how the sentencing of only one count when there's approximately 7499 other folks who aren't going to receive justice for what the convicted person did to them and not see that as corrupt? Yeah, they did just enough to be able to claim the DOJ reacted and got a conviction, but nothing compared to what the criminal could have been convicted of. He admitted his guilt. So, yeah the rest of Americans or at least 7499 others didn't see justice for crimes against them..


That's a very particular interpretation of the case and how it was prosecuted.

What blackrams is saying is that the prosecution of the case was all about Donald Trump and the compromising of Donald Trump's tax payer information, and the (reportedly) 7500 other people whose data was compromised is a circumstance that wasn't considered or weighed in any way by the DOJ prosecutors.

I have more open questions about the case, than I have answers.

Considering what I've read about the case, I like the idea (my own) of a 7-year prison sentence, instead of the 5 years of confinement and 3 years of supervision after release. Perhaps even more pertinent, I think he should have been penalized in the pocket (so to speak) with considerably more than just the $5,000 that he has been sentenced to forfeit.

I don't think that blackrams is any more informed about this case than I am.

I think blackrams is making extravagant inferences that go beyond anything that is publicly known or even knowable about the case.

If blackrams' prediction proves out, and President Biden pardons the IRS leaker or commutes his sentence before he serves his full 5-year term in federal prison, I guess I'd have to reexamine my thinking about it. Obviously, that remains to be seen. Hopefully, someone among us will remark it if it happens, and remind us of this discussion.

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blackrams JAN 30, 07:04 PM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:

I'm calling BS on your last post.....