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USFiero
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JAN 28, 09:38 PM
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| quote | | Originally posted by jstricker: You were paying $1.08 before the war? Which war?
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maybe we need to adjust for inflation after WWII 
$260 a barrel oil is going to suck. What'll that mean, $20 a gallon for gas?
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fierobear
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JAN 29, 01:50 AM
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I've been considering turning my 88 coupe 5 speed into a driver. Use it when the gas prices spike, and park the V6s. 35+mpg on the highway. Anyone know what the mileage is with an Indy 4 speed? One has come up for sale locally for $800.
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JazzMan
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JAN 29, 02:17 PM
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. [This message has been edited by JazzMan (edited 12-03-2008).]
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USFiero
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FEB 10, 07:05 PM
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$2.15 at the local discount gas station. I have checked, and I get marginally better gas mileage with premium, doubt it's worth the .20 increase per gallon to gain 10% better milage. The only upshot is 20 more miles to tankfull.
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FieroGT42
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FEB 10, 09:30 PM
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| quote | | Originally posted by NEPTUNE: Why is the government (Own3d by the oil companies) pushing hydrogen instead of BIODEISEL as an alternative fuel?
The USA has the most productive, efficient farms in the world.
We COULD be growing our own fuel instead of fighting wars to control foreign oil!
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According to one study it's just a little cheaper to make bio-diesel from corn (here in Iowa) than to use gasoline. Another researcher pointed out that they had purposely left out the cost of the farm machinery. I'm not a farmer, but I know that some harvesters can cost in the range of hundreds of thousands of dollars. When all of this is factored in, it's currently definitely more expensive to produce bio-diesel and/or ethanol from crops than the products are worth. You also have to put more energy into making the fuel than you get out of it.
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jstricker
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FEB 10, 11:18 PM
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I posted a study on making bio fuels, both diesel and ethanol, a while back. The actual costs varied widely depending on the bias and who did it. Some studies included all of the cost for all of the machinery, even though it was only partially used for making grain for fuel. Another ignored machinery costs all together. Neither approach is fair or accurate. They averaged about a dozen of them and came to the conclusion that there was a net gain in energy in most cases. I think it's getting more favorable as more ethanol plants are being built and the economies of scale are getting better, but that's just an opinion. John Stricker
| quote | | Originally posted by FieroGT42:
According to one study it's just a little cheaper to make bio-diesel from corn (here in Iowa) than to use gasoline. Another researcher pointed out that they had purposely left out the cost of the farm machinery. I'm not a farmer, but I know that some harvesters can cost in the range of hundreds of thousands of dollars.
When all of this is factored in, it's currently definitely more expensive to produce bio-diesel and/or ethanol from crops than the products are worth. You also have to put more energy into making the fuel than you get out of it. |
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[This message has been edited by jstricker (edited 02-10-2006).]
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DtheC
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FEB 11, 02:57 AM
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Here in Newton IA, some folkes got together and sold shares to start a Bio-Diesel plant. The Plant will use soy beans and animal fat as the feed stock. This plant will be on line this time next year. They are already planning for a huge expansion, before the plant comes online. All projected production is all ready spoken for. It seams that several west coast sea ports have pretty much mandated that 'all ships shall run Bio-Diesel while in port'. I guess it makes sence, to someone, to ship this stuff by rail tanker half way across the US to keep west coasters happy.
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USFiero
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FEB 12, 07:06 PM
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wow, a co-opped, not-for-profit bio diesel plant? That could be awesome...
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USFiero
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MAR 06, 11:58 AM
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It's been a mild winter... but in the last week prices went from 2.09 to 2.19 ... uh oh.
...Oh, and I miised saying - Happy Birthday to this thread![This message has been edited by USFiero (edited 03-06-2006).]
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sanderson
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MAR 06, 07:49 PM
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So far I don't believe anyone has mentioned: 1) car pooling 2) buying a more efficient car 3) moving closer to work 4) getting a job closer to home 5) taking public transportation to work 6) riding a motorcycle to work The market is telling you to do something. Low prices don't encourage conservation which this country badly needs.
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