Ukraine is screwed.......... (Page 7/19)
82-T/A [At Work] JAN 24, 10:48 AM

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Originally posted by sourmash:

I know most of you aren't very literate on politics or international intrigue, but it's a passing hobby for me.

Here's a little easy reading to show how the Clintons and Soros were involved in pilfering Russian assets. Soros and his ethnic relatives worked to loot Russia with the help of the Clintons.





We do know about this... and it's frustrating. I didn't read your list (I'll look at it later), but I'm sure Uranium One was probably in there as well as some of the other more egregious things. I think it's less Bill Clinton (he seems to just be along for the ride) and more Hillary, to be honest. But what can we do? What can individuals like you and me do?

Someone once told me... "Don't expect politicians to help protect you from the Government."


We can only do what we're doing... with the Internet, we have a bit more control over the narrative, and I think this is why you're seeing the left / left-leaning voters (quite honestly) breaking up into two camps:

1 - Radical, and unashamed / no longer hiding their true intentions.
2 - Being quiet, unsure of what's going on, disapproving of what's going on, but not informed enough to speak up. It can be best described as "loss of voter interest."

The left, and foreign governments, still control and manipulate the mass of the media.


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BREAK ...


In your opinion, what do you think is going to happen to Ukraine, the United States, and Russia in the next 1 week, 1 month, 1 year. Just want your opinion...

My thought, with the U.S. sending 3,000 troops to neighboring countries, that's to assist with evacuation. Putin has over 100,000 troops on the border right now. That's a huge expense for a country who's finances are not great. They wouldn't be doing this for show.
sourmash JAN 24, 11:15 AM
I'm positive that the West will continue to bait Russia and manipulate the situation in the way that theyre used to doing in international politics. They aren't going to quit because the people instigating are adept at burning the beach down to get their way.

Can Putin stay atop the resistance and hold Russia in security? Is there a network behind him that could fill the gap if he's replaced?

The West wants to mire him down in skirmishes as a means to weaken his support domestically.

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blackrams JAN 24, 11:22 AM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

My thought, with the U.S. sending 3,000 troops to neighboring countries, that's to assist with evacuation. Putin has over 100,000 troops on the border right now. That's a huge expense for a country who's finances are not great. They wouldn't be doing this for show.



Just as important (if not more important) than the numbers is the unit's make up, their normal mission and how they are equipped. I would assume that if those troops are infantry, you're probably correct. But, if another type of unit, then the mission could be completely different than evacuation. I don't know what unit was or is being considered.

Rams
sourmash JAN 24, 11:40 AM
I say many of you are politically illiterate. Some of you just blush over how the USA has been behind the looting of the Russians since the 1990s and go straight back to how Russian might instigate some military action.

No. Russia will not be the instigator. The USA will do that for them. It's our values.

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randye JAN 24, 11:25 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
..... and I think this is why you're seeing the left / left-leaning voters (quite honestly) breaking up into two camps:

1 - Radical, and unashamed / no longer hiding their true intentions.
2 - Being quiet, unsure of what's going on, disapproving of what's going on, but not informed enough to speak up. It can be best described as "loss of voter interest."






A nationally known political pundit friend of mine has often said that he sees the Left in two distinct groups.

There are what he calls the "little l" leftists. They are the followers. The no-so-bright masses of "useful idiots" that are propagandized to and manipulated by the 2nd group.
They are the ones that hoot and bray on forums like this one and other innumerable places all over social media, parroting what they are told.
They are the ones that are perpetual complainers, unaccomplished in life, blaming their own shortcomings on being "victimized" by some nebulous "oppressor".
They are the ones that look to the state to fix every wrong they perceive and to provide them with everything they want. They are the ones that constantly demand "universal healthcare", "basic universal income", free college tuition, "housing rights" (a/k/a free housing), "food security" (a/k/a free food), etc., etc., etc.

Then there are the "Big L" leftists. A very small group.
They are the ones that you rarely, if ever, see out front in the media or anywhere else.
They "lead from behind", in the shadows. They are the "True believers". They are the die hard Marxist radicals trying to overthrow capitalism in general and our government specifically. They see western democracy as inherently evil and are hell bent on killing it at any cost. They are the ones that desperately want power and are willing to do anything to get it.


I just call them all LEFTISTS and use a capital or lower case "L" as my mood strikes me.

It's just easier and at the end of the day they are all functionally the same.

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blackrams JAN 25, 07:14 AM

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Originally posted by randye:

I just call them all LEFTISTS and use a capital or lower case "L" as my mood strikes me.

It's just easier and at the end of the day they are all functionally the same.




I actually know a few Moderate Democrats but, they seem to be unwilling to call out the far left. I don't understand why but, I have failed miserably at trying to drive change within the Democratic Party. I'll continue to try to get my more moderate friends to speak up. Sorry guys.

Rams

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rinselberg JAN 25, 02:11 PM
"Chip shot... U.S. threatens use of novel export control to damage Russia’s strategic industries if Moscow invades Ukraine"

"The Rule of Rule"

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The attraction of using the foreign direct product rule derives from the fact that virtually anything electronic these days includes semiconductors, the tiny components on which all modern technology depends, from smartphones to jets to quantum computers — and that there is hardly a semiconductor on the planet that is not made with U.S. tools or designed with U.S. software. And the administration could try to force companies in other countries to stop exporting these types of goods to Russia through this rule.


Ellen Nakashima and Jeanne Whalen for the Washington Post; January 23, 2022.
https://www.washingtonpost....ons-export-controls/

"U.S. considers trade restrictions targeting Russia's strategic sectors"
Rebecca Shabad and Sally Bronston for NBC News; January 25, 2022.
https://www.nbcnews.com/pol...gic-sectors-n1287995

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blackrams JAN 25, 02:18 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

"Chip shot: U.S. threatens use of novel export control to damage Russia’s strategic industries if Moscow invades Ukraine"

"The Rule of Rule"
Ellen Nakashima and Jeanne Whalen for the Washington Post; January 23, 2022.
https://www.washingtonpost....ons-export-controls/

"U.S. considers trade restrictions targeting Russia's strategic sectors"
Rebecca Shabad and Sally Bronston for NBC News; January 25, 2022.
https://www.nbcnews.com/pol...gic-sectors-n1287995




I would fully expect all such products be threatened if Putin continues his drive to restore the previous USSR. With very few exceptions, once a society tastes freedom, they don't normally want to lose it. Putin may take Ukraine but, he and his country will pay a hefty price. Of course, this depends on whether or not our President grows a set.
It's obvious Russia, China and N. Korea are in cahoots to stretch out our forces and give us more to be concerned about. Anyone else think our embarrassing Afghanistan departure emboldened our opponents?

Rams
williegoat JAN 25, 06:11 PM
You know what would be real interesting?
What if Xi and Putin decided to move on the same day?

Here, hold my beer.



And what if everybody was busy watching the olympics or the stuper bowl?

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82-T/A [At Work] JAN 26, 11:25 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

"Chip shot... U.S. threatens use of novel export control to damage Russia’s strategic industries if Moscow invades Ukraine"





I know this is random, but back in the early to mid 1980s, Russia and the USA were at their peak competition years. Russia was developing and designing their own computer processors to compete with Intel, Texas Instruments, Advanced Micron Devices, and American Megatrends Inc., etc.

This is the KM1810VM88 processor, manufactured under USSR rule / control back in the day:




The processor in that picture was basically a copy / reversed engineered version of Intel's 8088 processor, which you can see here:



Both chips were 16-bit processors, with an 8-bit data bus. So effectively, it was really just an 8-bit processor that did math a little bit better than the 8086. It wasn't until the 80286 where the data bus became 16-bit and could support 16-bit ISA cards and more quantifiable RAM.

The above two chips (8088s) could be had in either 4.77, or 8.77 speeds. Eventually, Intel did make a 12Mhz version, but that was for special use cases.


This was the one that everyone wanted though, made by NEC, it was the NEC V20 processor...



This chip was FORCED unceremoniously down to 8.77mhz (and 4.77 for compatibility mode) in most computers that it was installed in, but it could easily run at 10Mhz in most machines. When you got a powerhouse computer, like the KayPro PC-10, it came with the NEC V20. It's the one everyone wanted. It was ALSO made from a reverse-engineered version of the Intel 8088... for that matter. But they made it betters.


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Anyway, I apologize for the huge nerd turn-off. Not only is this incredibly nerdy, but it's information that literally has absolutely no value or importance to society. I mean, if you read this, and remember any of it... it will serve no value to you as you go about your lives. It will make you less cool if you bring it up at a cocktail dinner, or a BBQ... and even at a nerd convention, people will probably slowly walk away from you to go neuter their cats. So I do apologize, but I love this topic. Hahah...