Reincarnation? (Page 6/10) randye SEP 20, 08:28 PM quote Originally posted by Patrick: I knew BingB was going to be negged by a core group here in P&R who can't tolerate any challenge to their political beliefs. quote Originally posted by Cliff Pennock: I would like to add though that if a person is being speed-banned (when a person gets banned before his ratings bar shows up), it's always justified. Let me explain. The rating bar becomes active when you have 50 ratings. There are several reasons for that which I won't get into now. But, if at any time before that, you have raked up so many negative ratings that even if every single rating from then on would be positive you'd still get banned when the counter reaches 50, the system speed-bans you. In all honesty, that's quite the feat. It boils down to having received hardly any positive ratings while receiving a butt load of negative ratings. If people say that people were ganging up on him and that's what got him banned, then I always call BS. Because it really takes only a few positive ratings to make sure you do not get speed-banned (or banned at all for that matter). So as it turns out your imaginary "usual suspects" / "core group" are NOT the principal / proximate cause of another of your comrades being banned. As Cliff explained, you have to have a "butt load of negative ratings" when even just a few positives can't save you before you hit 50 total ratings. "that's quite the feat" 82-T/A [At Work] SEP 20, 09:01 PM quote Originally posted by Patrick: I knew BingB was going to be negged by a core group here in P&R who can't tolerate any challenge to their political beliefs. I did my best to help keep BingB afloat... but alas, I have but one vote (despite being accused many times here over the years of having multiple PFF profiles). I've been trying not to respond to this because I realize it's upsetting you so much. But again, what do you consider the "core group" Patrick? There are maybe 5 of us here... Old Joe, myself, Randye, Willie, and Blackrams... and Willie says he doesn't neg. He had nearly 50 dislikes... as Cliff said, an overwhelming number of his ratings were all negatives. I'm not trying to be a jerk, but you're so focused on the delusion that it's his politics we don't like, and not the way he interacts. There's several posts on this site outside of P&R where he's pissed people off with nothing to do with politics in the slightest. I will state again, this is the THIRD account he's had on here where he's been banned. And... there are MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE other sites where he's been banned also. This is a constantly reoccurring theme for him... that's outside of our little world. Have you ever been told that story by your parents... about the guy who keeps getting fired from his job and keeps blaming every boss he has? How... if the same thing keeps happening to a person time and time again, it might just be him that's the problem? This is one of those situations. You seem so convinced that evil Republicans are canceling Democrats on here... but you can't even tell me who the last left-leaning person on here to get banned was... aside from FredToast, ToastGuy (or whatever it was), and BingB... which is the same exact person. Matter of fact, the last two people who were banned from here were both right-leaning... Sourmash and MEM. Again, you're so convinced that there's some conspiracy here, that you never just stopped to think... maybe Fred is the problem. williegoat SEP 20, 09:19 PM quote Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: Again, you're so convinced that there's some conspiracy here, that you never just stopped to think... maybe Fred is the problem. Maybe Dustin can educate him about critical thinking. Patrick SEP 20, 09:50 PM quote Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: He had nearly 50 dislikes... as Cliff said That's not what Cliff said at all. quote Originally posted by randye: As Cliff explained, you have to have a "butt load of negative ratings" when even just a few positives can't save you before you hit 50 total ratings. "that's quite the feat" And how many are a "butt load"? You don't know, and I don't know. That's Cliff's business, and I'm not seeking that info. quote Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: I've been trying not to respond to this because I realize it's upsetting you so much. Why do you make the erroneous assumption that because I express myself on a public forum that I'm "upset"? You've done this countless times over the years. I'm quite capable of expressing an opinion just fine without being "upset". And no, I'm not heavily medicated either. I've expressed how I feel about the situation. You're free to disagree as you see fit. 82-T/A [At Work] SEP 20, 10:05 PM quote Originally posted by Patrick: That's not what Cliff said at all. Let's do some common sense here. I said, "He had nearly 50 dislikes," Cliff said, "I would like to add though that if a person is being speed-banned (when a person gets banned before his ratings bar shows up), it's always justified. Let me explain. The rating bar becomes active when you have 50 ratings. There are several reasons for that which I won't get into now. But, if at any time before that, you have raked up so many negative ratings that even if every single rating from then on would be positive you'd still get banned when the counter reaches 50, the system speed-bans you. In all honesty, that's quite the feat. It boils down to having received hardly any positive ratings while receiving a butt load of negative ratings." ... and, "...it really takes only a few positive ratings to make sure you do not get speed-banned." Let's deduce some things here: - If you have raked up so many negative ratings, you are speed banned once the counter reaches 50. - It really takes only a few positive ratings to make sure you do not get speed-banned. - ... it's quite the feat (to do what BingB did) - It boils down to having received hardly any positive ratings while receiving a butt load of negative ratings You seem still convinced... (erroneously), that it's all because he was left-leaning. IMSA GT SEP 20, 10:11 PM Great discussion. Let's test these theories the next time he signs up. williegoat SEP 20, 10:18 PM MEM was an anarchist, sourmash was a neo-NAZI and furgal was just an angry little twerp. Although furgal claimed to be a conservative, he constantly demonstrated otherwise. He was clueless. Sourmash, furgal and toast all had the same behavioral issues. Patrick SEP 20, 10:20 PM quote Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: It boils down to having received hardly any positive ratings while receiving a butt load of negative ratings ...which is pretty easy to do if one limits themselves here almost exclusively to political "discussion" (and I use that term loosely). quote Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: You seem still convinced... (erroneously), that it's all because he was left-leaning. Please Todd, if the ultra right-wingers were judged as harshly in this forum, at least one of your forum buddies would've been gone from here years ago. NewDustin SEP 20, 11:34 PM quote Originally posted by williegoat: Maybe Dustin can educate him about critical thinking. My success rate on the forum is spotty. NewDustin SEP 20, 11:40 PM quote Originally posted by Patrick: I hadn't seen that thread. It's debatable IMO whether or not he had actually reached the level of being a "tool" there, but questioning the value of goods in a Mall post perhaps wasn't the brightest or most polite thing to be doing. I might be touchy about it because I've used Guru's write ups and information more than anyone else's so far, and I respect the hell out of him running a Fiero performance business and giving back to the community. Crapping on him making money off the sale of a rare item rubbed me all kinds of the wrong way. It's not like he's here scamming people.