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82-T/A [At Work]
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JAN 10, 08:30 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by BingB: I think you are confused because you stepped into the middle of our conversation.
I was saying that you can't judge all Trump supporters as racists just because some of them are and you also can't judge all Muslims as terrorist just because some of them are.
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No... that's not what you meant, and it's not what you mean now. You think all the racists exist on the right... and that's what you're insinuating. Ignoring 200+ years of history of the Democrat party being the primary proprietor of racism in this country... you cannot simply pretend that it's all on the right for the sake of your ridiculous argument.
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ray b
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JAN 10, 10:29 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
No... that's not what you meant, and it's not what you mean now. You think all the racists exist on the right... and that's what you're insinuating. Ignoring 200+ years of history of the Democrat party being the primary proprietor of racism in this country... you cannot simply pretend that it's all on the right for the sake of your ridiculous argument. |
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why in the nut-con world can't you understand the racist demo's were 100% CONSERVATIVE
WHO ARE NOW THE CONSERVATIVE RACIST Gop
THEY CHANGED PARTYS
BUT KEEP THE CONSERVATIVE DELUSIONS
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82-T/A [At Work]
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JAN 10, 11:22 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by ray b:
why in the nut-con world can't you understand the racist demo's were 100% CONSERVATIVE
WHO ARE NOW THE CONSERVATIVE RACIST Gop
THEY CHANGED PARTYS
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So then Prescott Bush and Eisenhower were really Democrats, and FDR and Al Gore Sr. were Republicans?
That's seems unrealistic. FDR was very socialist... but also had a lot of very racist policies that encouraged things like ethnic cleansing.
You can't have both... history is what it is. The Democrats were the racist ones... and to a degree, still are. Look at who hates the Jews. Look at who continues to push abortion clinics in black and brown neighborhoods, look at who continues to try to enslave minorities through Government dependency.
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ray b
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JAN 10, 12:22 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
So then Prescott Bush and Eisenhower were really Democrats, and FDR and Al Gore Sr. were Republicans?
That's seems unrealistic. FDR was very socialist... but also had a lot of very racist policies that encouraged things like ethnic cleansing.
You can't have both... history is what it is. The Democrats were the racist ones... and to a degree, still are. Look at who hates the Jews. Look at who continues to push abortion clinics in black and brown neighborhoods, look at who continues to try to enslave minorities through Government dependency. |
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sure in a big country we can have both
also in a big party can have both liberals and regressives
al's dad was a southern political guy who voted like a modern Gop member ie a 1% supporter/racist
FDR was in a war when the japs were camped a con supported/demanded action note the islands did not do that
just on the mainland were they rounded up in more liberal areas like Hawaii they did NOT do it + too many people
old bush was a nazi trader
ike just killed them
I fail to see the connection
all southern demo's prior to the 60's were racists or lost
north was very different you think both were the same or very similar
they were NOT
anti evolution in Gop land apply's to more then the BUYBULL
as you want political positions FIXED unchanged and locked
sorry change is the way things ''work''
blacks who were the southern Gop woke to nixon as a leader and ran away fast
life is change
only the dead never change
anti-woke is a huge problem
as it means cult members are not allowed to learn or grow
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BingB
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JAN 10, 12:25 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
No... that's not what you meant, and it's not what you mean now. You think all the racists exist on the right... and that's what you're insinuating. Ignoring 200+ years of history of the Democrat party being the primary proprietor of racism in this country... you cannot simply pretend that it's all on the right for the sake of your ridiculous argument. |
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I don't know what you are talking about. I never said any of those things.
Clearly Trump has supporters who are racist, but my point is that you can't paint all of his supporters as racist anymore than you can paint all Muslims as terrorists. I am pointing out improper stereotyping by BOTH SIDES.
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Doug85GT
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JAN 10, 12:27 PM
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ray b
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JAN 11, 10:21 AM
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BRUSSELS — One of Europe's most senior politicians recounted how former U.S. President Donald Trump privately warned that America would not come to the EU's aid if it was attacked militarily.
"You need to understand that if Europe is under attack we will never come to help you and to support you," Trump told European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen in 2020, according to French European Commissioner Thierry Breton, who was also present at a meeting at the World Economic Forum in Davos.
https://www.politico.eu/art...tack-thierry-breton/
putin loving scumbag traitor
spin that con's
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82-T/A [At Work]
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JAN 11, 11:24 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by ray b:
BRUSSELS — One of Europe's most senior politicians recounted how former U.S. President Donald Trump privately warned that America would not come to the EU's aid if it was attacked militarily.
"You need to understand that if Europe is under attack we will never come to help you and to support you," Trump told European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen in 2020, according to French European Commissioner Thierry Breton, who was also present at a meeting at the World Economic Forum in Davos.
https://www.politico.eu/art...tack-thierry-breton/
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There's no real appetite for it... I'm not sure the U.S. would generally WANT to support it since the E.U. hasn't necessarily been a friend of the U.S. for some time. It would have to be an extreme situation for us to get involved, where we thought Europe couldn't win on their own easily.
But I'm not sure that Trump worded it in such a way... this is a 3rd person recollection, and I doubt it was worded in such a way. I'm sure it was more like... you need to stand on your own to feet and not "expect" the United States to come to your aid.
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Doug85GT
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JAN 11, 11:43 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by ray b:
BRUSSELS — One of Europe's most senior politicians recounted how former U.S. President Donald Trump privately warned that America would not come to the EU's aid if it was attacked militarily.
"You need to understand that if Europe is under attack we will never come to help you and to support you," Trump told European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen in 2020, according to French European Commissioner Thierry Breton, who was also present at a meeting at the World Economic Forum in Davos.
https://www.politico.eu/art...tack-thierry-breton/
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That is awesome news!!! It proves he is no neocon. No more world policeman. Stop these proxy wars and bring our troops home. Countries will have to solve their own problems rather than running to daddy America.
Who knew that Ray was a nationalistic imperialist. This video is for you Ray.
America, **** Yea!
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rinselberg
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JAN 11, 02:27 PM
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On Tuesday, a three-judge panel from the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia held a hearing on whether Trump can claim "presidential immunity" and have the federal charges against him over the 2020 presidential election dismissed without trial. Here's some of how that went... in so many words.
Judge Florence Pan:
| quote | | Are you saying that a President of the United States could not be prosecuted after leaving office, even if as President, he used his authority as Commander In Chief to order Seal Team Six to assassinate one of his political opponents in Congress? |
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Attorney John Sauer, representing Donald Trump:
| quote | | He could be prosecuted, but only if he had already been impeached and convicted by Congress for this crime. |
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Later that day, legal scholar Laurence Tribe appeared on MSNBC's "The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell" and raised this question:
| quote | | What if a President who was facing trial in the Senate, after the House filed charges of impeachment against him for ordering a political assassination by Seal Team Six, interfered with his impeachment trial by ordering Seal Team Six to assassinate the Senators that he thought would be likely to vote to convict him on the impeachment charge of having ordered a political assassination by Seal Team Six? Would he be immune from prosecution after leaving office, unless there were somehow a second impeachment and conviction for ordering the political assassinations that prevented the Senate from convicting him after the first impeachment? |
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It boggles the mind![This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 01-11-2024).]
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