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williegoat DEC 23, 10:38 AM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:

The Democrats long term strategy is to undermine our citizens confidence in all of our systems of government, as they work toward 'The Great Reset'.


Olejoedad said that the Dems want to undermine our confidence in the system. They want to change the system and they want us to trust them instead.

The Dems want to shift our confidence from our system of government to their vision of the future.

Olejoedad is right.
williegoat DEC 23, 10:40 AM
This is not a new plan. It did not start with Biden. It has been going on since the election of LBJ.
theBDub DEC 23, 11:09 AM
I tend to think of this forum as a microcosm of the fringe right and come here primarily for that reason—to see how the fringe right is justifying X, Y, and Z. Despite expecting to be surprised, this somewhat innocuous comment is somehow the most insane comment I’ve read here. Not even gonna argue it, just stating my surprise is all.
williegoat DEC 23, 11:25 AM
Glad we could help.
olejoedad DEC 23, 12:10 PM
Bdub, they are the party that wants a one world government.

The only way that will happen is to have the unaware voters to trust their voting scams, their vaccines and their charges against their political enemies.

Sorry you think that's "insane", but just take a look around you.....
82-T/A [At Work] DEC 23, 12:42 PM

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Originally posted by theBDub:

*Democrats* are the ones undermining confidence in our government…? Is this serious? This has been a *staple* of the MAGA crowd. I don’t know how you can say this with a straight face.




I think you're misunderstanding... Democrats do things that cause people to distrust the government, not that they want people to distrust the government.

To control speech, to control actions, etc... these are things that are destabilizing. To manipulate local state laws (against the state constitutions) to help Democrats prior to an election also causes distrust in government. At least 4 states Supreme Courts determined that Democrats significantly violated election laws by using COVID to waive all voting guidelines that allowed for ballot harvesting, ballot drops, etc.:

Michigan:
- https://www.washingtonexami...-law-absentee-ballot
- https://www.detroitnews.com...-invalid/4699927001/
- https://trendingpolitics.co...e-ballot-order-knab/

Pennsylvania:
- https://www.cbsnews.com/pit...voting-law-decision/
- https://thefederalist.com/2...were-broken-in-2020/

Wisconsin:
- https://www.reuters.com/wor...lections-2022-07-08/
- https://www.breitbart.com/p...s-violate-state-law/

Georgia:
- https://www.gpb.org/news/20...ke-da-race-will-move
- https://thefederalist.com/2...ection-laws-in-2020/


To pull out of a 20 year war, with 13 soldiers being killed in the process... absolutely, ABSOLUTELY creates distrust in the government because then people like me who deployed there question why we did it in the first place. The abuse of the 702 FISA by the FBI is also creating distrust of the government.

This is the same technology that was ILLEGALLY used to spy on reporter James Rosen of Fox News by the Obama administration.
This is the same technology that was ILLEGALLY used to spy on reporter Sharyl Attkisson of CBS News by the Obama administration.
This is the same technology that was ILLEGALLY used to spy on 20+ Associated Press reporters by the Obama administration.
This is the same technology that was ILLEGALLY used to spy on the entire Trump campaign by the Obama administration during the entire primary election (reported by NSA director Adm Rogers)

Obama used FISA 702 to spy on everyone from Dennis Kucinich to 100s of other people that haven’t even been identified. All using the FBI’s access to NSA’s collection system.

Biden has actually taken it a step further and even though there was initially an uproar about this, it was mostly considered “OK” because a lot of it was geared towards Trump, and so people were OK with giving up their liberty and giving this power to the Federal government because of their irrational hatred of Trump. Even the ACLU tried to fight this… (specifically for journalists) but it went no where.

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theBDub DEC 23, 01:02 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
I think you're misunderstanding... Democrats do things that cause people to distrust the government.





I’m not misunderstanding.

The comment above wasn’t “Damn, those Democrats are so incompetent it causes me to lose trust in the system.” That’s what your comment is about.

Joe here said it’s the long-term strategy specifically to cause that distrust so they can do a reset.

So it’s not “I disagree with what they do” or “they’re incompetent at what they do” it’s “they’ve been trying to sabotage everything for decades by implementing government overreach so that people will then give them more power to do more government overreach.”

It doesn’t make sense.
williegoat DEC 23, 01:05 PM

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Originally posted by theBDub:

It doesn’t make sense.


But despite that, it seems to work.

They say, "Don't trust those evil (fill in the blank). Give us the power to stop them."

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82-T/A [At Work] DEC 23, 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by theBDub:


I’m not misunderstanding.

The comment above wasn’t “Damn, those Democrats are so incompetent it causes me to lose trust in the system.” That’s what your comment is about.

Joe here said it’s the long-term strategy specifically to cause that distrust so they can do a reset.

So it’s not “I disagree with what they do” or “they’re incompetent at what they do” it’s “they’ve been trying to sabotage everything for decades by implementing government overreach so that people will then give them more power to do more government overreach.”

It doesn’t make sense.




Ok, well... I don't know about your discussion with Joe, but it doesn't negate what I said about Democrats doing things that have MADE me an ardent Republican (or actually, a Trumper). I used to be a Democrat... back when Democrats were essentially what Trump is today. Bill Clinton was the Trump president of the 90s.
blackrams DEC 27, 12:17 PM
Well, to get back on topic, CO SC decided one thing, MI decided the other way.

Michigan Supreme Court rejects 14th Amendment election challenge to Trump

https://www.msn.com/en-us/n...to-trump/ar-AA1m69Mu

It seems that MI agrees with innocent until proven guilty while CO SC finds just the opposite.
While not being a proponent of DJT, it's amazing that CO SC determined he was not qualified to be on the ballot. DJT has not been charged, tried nor found guilty of insurrection and yet CO says he's not qualified. Tell me again how this isn't political......................

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