Nihilism vs Civilization (Page 6/27)
82-T/A [At Work] DEC 21, 07:51 AM

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Originally posted by BingB:

Who is your favorite "strongman, Wichita?

Hitler?
Stalin?
Mao Zedong?
Saddam Hussian?
Idi Amin?

Just look at all the "good times" they created.




You're mischaracterizing the quote.

It's "men" plural... as in society. WEAK MEN allowed those individuals to take power... because the weak men did nothing about it.
rinselberg DEC 21, 12:51 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
You're mischaracterizing the quote. It's "men" plural... as in society. WEAK MEN allowed those individuals to take power... because the weak men did nothing about it.


Really? That wasn't my interpretation (obviously) of this cartoon from Wichita and the words from Wichita that accompanied it.

I think it's just another feeble-minded Wichita "slagging" of LGBTQ+ groups and individuals.


This is a picture that's "worth a thousand words"... a real "olejoedad" pleaser if ever there was one.

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82-T/A [At Work] DEC 21, 08:42 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Really? That wasn't my interpretation (obviously) of this cartoon from Wichita and the words from Wichita that accompanied it.

I think it's just another feeble-minded Wichita "slagging" of LGBTQ+ groups and individuals.


This is a picture that's "worth a thousand words"... a real "olejoedad" pleaser if ever there was one.




Ok, I don't know what all you've got going on with Wichita, but the quote is as old as humanity. But it was used more recently in a book called "Those Who Remain" which talks about successive "generations" of weak and strong men replacing themselves. That, strong men fight the battles which result in weak men, who then fail to stand up for what is right, which results in tough times, that in turn results in people ... once again, fighting back (strong men).

You need only look at an assault video on a train or bus... everyone just sits there and watches. Every situation I've been in, I've tried to intervene in any way that I could. I'd never simply sit there while a girl is raped or beat up by some dude. But I'm a big guy, so maybe that's the difference.
rinselberg DEC 21, 09:17 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Ok, I don't know what all you've got going on with Wichita, but the quote is as old as humanity. But it was used more recently in a book called "Those Who Remain" which talks about successive "generations" of weak and strong men replacing themselves. That, strong men fight the battles which result in weak men, who then fail to stand up for what is right, which results in tough times, that in turn results in people ... once again, fighting back (strong men).

You need only look at an assault video on a train or bus... everyone just sits there and watches. Every situation I've been in, I've tried to intervene in any way that I could. I'd never simply sit there while a girl is raped or beat up by some dude. But I'm a big guy, so maybe that's the difference.


I think what is significant, in divining what Wichita had in mind, is what is in the lower pane of the cartoon that he posted. Or how the cartoon ends. The "punchline." Where it says "MA'AM."



Given my familiarity with Wichita's remarks over the years, this tells me that his cartoon, and the words that he posted along with it, are just another feeble-minded Wichita "slagging" of LGBTQ+ groups and individuals. That, more than anything else. It's "signature" Wichita. A Wichita motif.

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randye DEC 21, 09:55 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Ok, I don't know what all you've got going on with Wichita, but the quote is as old as humanity. But it was used more recently in a book called "Those Who Remain" which talks about successive "generations" of weak and strong men replacing themselves. That, strong men fight the battles which result in weak men, who then fail to stand up for what is right, which results in tough times, that in turn results in people ... once again, fighting back (strong men).

You need only look at an assault video on a train or bus... everyone just sits there and watches. Every situation I've been in, I've tried to intervene in any way that I could. I'd never simply sit there while a girl is raped or beat up by some dude. But I'm a big guy, so maybe that's the difference.
82-T/A [At Work] DEC 22, 08:29 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

I think what is significant, in divining what Wichita had in mind, is what is in the lower pane of the cartoon that he posted. Or how the cartoon ends. The "punchline." Where it says "MA'AM."





I'm not here to criticize people who define themselves as transgender. I've known a lot of trans people... it just goes with my line of work. My first "trans" co-worker was over 22 years ago... and he (now she) had gone through all the surgeries, top and bottom, as well as facial reconstruction. I don't want to speak ill of her, but he suffered from a lot of mental illness unrelated to gender dysphoria, but regardless... it was a different time, and a different kind of personality.

Many of the people you see today... pretty much the one referenced in the image above, is a different "kind" of person. It's not someone with just gender dysphoria, but someone who has an axe to grind. For individuals like that, it's not just enough that they want to be themselves... but they demand a lot of things. If a woman was being raped on the bus, the two examples on Wichita's meme... which one do you think would come to the aid of the victim? Would it be the person with the "danger" hair and the oppression complex? Or would it be the soldier who believes he's fighting for a cause? This is the problem we face today. The person on the bottom is emblematic of the type of personalities that people have today... it's all about "them," and no one thinks about society as a whole today... what's good for society. These are the people who "want to live their best life," rather than think about how they could otherwise spend their life being productive for the good of society. To a degree, this is very much why Socialism occurs... people begin to think only of themselves, and then expect the Government to provide for them... which then turns into Communism, and in an ironic twist... they're now being forced to provide for the Government's benefit... which is almost paradoxical when you consider it.
cliffw DEC 22, 08:49 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:
I think what is significant, in divining what Wichita had in mind, is what is in the lower pane of the cartoon that he posted. Or how the cartoon ends. The "punchline." Where it says "MA'AM."



Given my familiarity with Wichita's remarks over the years, this tells me that his cartoon, and the words that he posted along with it, are just another feeble-minded Wichita "slagging" of LGBTQ+ groups and individuals. That, more than anything else. It's "signature" Wichita. A Wichita motif.



Think what you wish. Believe what you think. Why do you deny the truth of his rinselberg button pushing meme ?
olejoedad DEC 22, 10:14 AM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
I'm not here to criticize people who define themselves as transgender. I've known a lot of trans people... it just goes with my line of work. My first "trans" co-worker was over 22 years ago... and he (now she) had gone through all the surgeries, top and bottom, as well as facial reconstruction. I don't want to speak ill of her, but he suffered from a lot of mental illness unrelated to gender dysphoria, but regardless... it was a different time, and a different kind of personality.

Many of the people you see today... pretty much the one referenced in the image above, is a different "kind" of person. It's not someone with just gender dysphoria, but someone who has an axe to grind. For individuals like that, it's not just enough that they want to be themselves... but they demand a lot of things. If a woman was being raped on the bus, the two examples on Wichita's meme... which one do you think would come to the aid of the victim? Would it be the person with the "danger" hair and the oppression complex? Or would it be the soldier who believes he's fighting for a cause? This is the problem we face today. The person on the bottom is emblematic of the type of personalities that people have today... it's all about "them," and no one thinks about society as a whole today... what's good for society. These are the people who "want to live their best life," rather than think about how they could otherwise spend their life being productive for the good of society. To a degree, this is very much why Socialism occurs... people begin to think only of themselves, and then expect the Government to provide for them... which then turns into Communism, and in an ironic twist... they're now being forced to provide for the Government's benefit... which is almost paradoxical when you consider it.



Change whatever, the chromosomes are what determines biological gender.

Each and every one of us in this life have crosses to bear.
ray b DEC 23, 11:21 AM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:


Change whatever, the chromosomes are what determines biological gender.

Each and every one of us in this life have crosses to bear.



I thought the godbothered blame it on satan not ever DNA
else they have to admit gay is born not made

OK what about hermaphrodite's

and many think you need to drop the cross BS
as only nuts lug around a cross
and worry far more about your nation and the screwed up Gop
while the fairytales do not need any new laws and most old fairy based laws need repeal

please note
the RUMP IS A CROOK
olejoedad DEC 23, 12:21 PM
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