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williegoat
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FEB 18, 11:11 PM
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I'll bet that drives the dogs crazy.
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82-T/A [At Work]
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FEB 20, 01:53 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
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I have to say, the fact that they had to put this into a cartoon, just shows the kinds of people we're dealing with.
I'm sorry... people pay big money to have access to gas. Literally, all the luxury neighborhoods have it, and most higher-end middle class neighborhoods have it. It's considered a luxury. If I didn't know any better, I would believe that Democrats are INTENTIONALLY limiting options to everything, and intentionally moving society to a homologated supply so that they can better control society.
Telling people that the modern gas stove is dangerous, is like saying saying standing next to a running car is bad for you. I can think of no reasonable argument for why anyone should listen to this nonsense. If we should learn ANYTHING about this "episode," is that we can see how quickly Democrat loyalists fall in line whenever the radical-left establishment lets out a fart.
Immediately following the announcement that the Biden administration wanted to eliminate gas, nearly every Democrat friend that I have, was suddenly telling me how horrible natural gas stoves were. This magically... over night... became like the most important thing in the world. They started sending me studies, and telling me all about how it causes cancer, and people are dying from having gas stoves at home... you name it. Like, if the Biden Administration said that Jihadists needed equal access to Cheese Pizza, this would be the next big crisis and they'd be sending me e-mails and "studies" on how pizza is intentionally limited near jihadist regions because of racism.
I think honestly, we need to study, not only the mass-psychosis that we clearly saw, but how this was able to be so quickly spread amongst Democrat supporters.
There's either two things going on:
1 - Democrats are insanely retarded and gullible, and are desperately looking for "the next thing" they're supposed to support, or...
2 - There is a dissemination effort that transcends simple media response, but a coordination that reveals a manipulative agenda for society.
So please tell me which you think it is? This is a serious question.
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rinselberg
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FEB 20, 08:47 PM
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I don't know if that cartoon-style "work up" is something that was created especially for the reporters at the Washington Post, where I saw it, or if it comes from Rewiring America, which has this on their "About Us" page:
| quote | | Rewiring America is the leading electrification nonprofit, focused on electrifying our homes, businesses, and communities. We develop accessible, actionable data and tools. Rewiring America helps Americans save money, tackle nationwide emissions goals, improve health, and build the next generation of the clean energy workforce. We believe in an abundant, flourishing, climate-safe future, and know that, together, we can realize one. |
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https://www.rewiringamerica.org/about[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 02-20-2023).]
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rinselberg
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FEB 20, 10:08 PM
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"Charismatic, but deadly"
Gas kitchen ranges and ovens are known to emit all of these substances into the air of home and commercial kitchens:
Nitrogen dioxide.
Methane.
PM2.5, which is particular matter—granular carbon or "soot"—of 2.5 microns or less.
Toluene.
Benzene.
Hexane.
Formaldehyde.
Carbon monoxide.
You wouldn't let an old fashioned, diesel powered truck or bus drive through your home. Why would you want to have a gas-fired kitchen range or oven? A question worthy of any modern day-Socrates, indeed.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 02-20-2023).]
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randye
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FEB 20, 10:15 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
I have to say, the fact that they had to put this into a cartoon, just shows the kinds of people we're dealing with.
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The Leftist media fully understands that the sheep they shovel propaganda to are indeed at the intellectual level of children.
Children for whom words can be "violence" and "safe spaces" are necessary.
Children for whom the climate is "settled science" but also believe that men can become women and vice-versa.
Children who will gleefully parrot any nonsense as long as it has a ridiculous pseudo-scientific"study" referenced to it that they cannot possibly comprehend but lends some imagined "authority" that they can wield like a rhetorical weapon.
We are now faced with at least two generations of profoundly ignorant "mental children" in adult bodies who are also bereft of critical thinking skills or a sense of self-reliance.[This message has been edited by randye (edited 02-20-2023).]
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rinselberg
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FEB 21, 03:45 AM
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EXCERPT
| quote | If you don’t have asthma or another respiratory condition, pollutants from your stove are probably not causing you acute harm—especially if you are using it right, says [Rima Habre, an indoor air quality expert at the University of Southern California.]
That means opening windows whenever you cook; putting pans on the back burners and turning an outdoor-venting extractor fan on every single time you light a burner; and avoiding long cooking times on stovetop or in a gas-powered oven.
But most of us aren’t using them perfectly, or even close. Tests in California homes showed that even code-compliant fume extractor hoods remove only about half of stove-caused NO2 pollution—and most people don’t turn on their fan every time they use the stove.
For those who want to make the switch, the options are increasing by the day, and the Inflation Reduction Act includes incentives to help pay for non-gas options. |
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"The scientific case against gas stoves"
Alejandra Borunda for National Geographic; February 17, 2023.
https://www.nationalgeograp...mate-chefs-induction[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 02-21-2023).]
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82-T/A [At Work]
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FEB 21, 08:36 AM
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It's real simple to me.
For Democrats... this wasn't important to you until you were told it was important.
Using natural gas in stoves... isn't like taking lead out of paint, or asbestos out of insulation and ceiling and flooring materials.
This is something that we've been using for 100s of years. It is completely nonsense... and the technology on these newer stoves is significantly better than they used even 20 years ago, and the gas is cleaner still than what we used to pipe into homes.
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rinselberg
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FEB 21, 10:34 AM
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In terms of their history, you should have gas-fired kitchen ranges and ovens on about the same timeline as the use of asbestos for insulating buildings, with both becoming common starting at or shortly after the beginning of the 20th century or the 1900s. Commercial-scale production of asbestos insulation started in 1879. The first gas stove factory dates back to 1836, but the Sears catalog of 1900 did not list any gas-fired kitchen ranges or ovens—they were still uncommon.
Lead paint, however, is a different story, so let's have another edition of "Rinse's Excerpts":
| quote | Unbeknownst to many [in our time], lead paint was being produced as early as the 4th century BC. Specifically, the paint color lead white was popularized by artists and laborers due to its thickness, density, and opacity. . . .
Despite its growing popularity in both interior and exterior settings, there are some medieval texts that warned against the dangers of the paint, claiming it could lead to “apoplexy, paralysis, or epilepsy.” . . .
In the early days of its use, cans of lead-based paint could contain up to 70% lead, which is an absolutely insane percentage by today’s standards. . . .
The widespread use of lead paint continued across the Americas and Europe. It was popularized during colonial times for use on interiors and exteriors of homes, due in part to its durability. In the United States, the peak of lead paint use was in the 19th century. . . .
By the 1920s, more and more consumers were becoming aware of the health and environmental concerns surrounding lead paints. Use throughout Europe began to taper off, but in America, the transition away from lead-based paints took much longer. . . .
Perhaps one of the most interesting anecdotes comes from Ben Franklin. Reportedly, he wrote to a friend in as early as 1786 to warn about the dangers of lead and specifically lead paint. However, it would be almost exactly 100 years later that the first legal actions were taken to reduce lead exposure. . . .
Surprisingly, for such an industrialized and developed country, the United States did not conform to lead-based paint standards like other countries until the late 20th century.
In 1971, the U.S. Congress banned the use of lead-based paints in any newly built residential or commercial buildings, but only if they were constructed using federal funding or assistance.
It wasn’t until seven years later, in 1977, that the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission finally banned the use of lead-based paint completely in residential and public properties. This is also when the use of lead paint in toys and furniture was banned in the United States. . . . |
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With time being short, I am omitting my usual reference citations.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 02-21-2023).]
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randye
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FEB 21, 09:52 PM
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"The scientific case against gas stoves"
Alejandra Borunda for National Geographic; February 17, 2023.
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YUP, It's Alejandra Borunda
The Fake "climate scientist" who wants to tell you that that the climate is cooler under shade trees
Yes, she really is that simple-minded and she thinks you are too....of course where it comes to her comrade Lefties, she's 100% correct.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptT8C4Z2mRM&t=161s
This poor young Leftie lass is a babbling idiot.....
....just the kind of babbling idiot to preach anti gas stove propaganda to other Leftists.
As I said:
| quote | Originally posted by randye:
The Leftist media fully understands that the sheep they shovel propaganda to are indeed at the intellectual level of children.
We are now faced with at least two generations of profoundly ignorant "mental children" in adult bodies who are also bereft of critical thinking skills or a sense of self-reliance.
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[This message has been edited by randye (edited 02-22-2023).]
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rinselberg
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FEB 21, 11:06 PM
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Don't be misled by that bizarre screed, as the National Geographic article from Alejandra Borunda draws on the expertise of others, particularly Dr. Rima Habre, an Associate Professor of Population and Public Health Sciences at the University of Southern California, whose research focuses on indoors air quality and how to protect people from airborne contaminants that are common in homes.
Odds are you don't have a subscription for National Geographic online, but you can likely see this article as a "freebie", if you are especially keen on this topic.
"The scientific case against gas stoves"
Alejandra Borunda for National Geographic; February 17, 2023.
https://www.nationalgeograp...mate-chefs-induction
| quote | For those who want to make the switch [from gas to electric], the options are increasing by the day, and the Inflation Reduction Act includes incentives to help pay for non-gas options. . . .
Professional chef Jon Kung loves [the electric induction cooking technology], even for [super high heat, wok-style] cooking—a style some feared wouldn’t work without gas. Working in high-end kitchens in China, he saw induction everywhere: it provided “better safety, better comfort, and just a more reliable and cleaner technology."
He just remodeled his home kitchen all-electric. “I love it.” |
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Eddy Currents does all the work, while you chill out. The beauty of an electric induction cooking range.
"Your kitchen is important. Don't fall for the gas industry's gaslighting!"[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 02-22-2023).]
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