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rinselberg
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DEC 02, 08:19 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
"Since we have destroyed the climate with so much man-made stuff, the only way to fix it is to spread more man-made stuff into the ecosphere." |
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The large fleets of aircraft spraying "stuff" into the air or onto the remaining ice sheets by year 2100 is radical. It could be (and is being) described as "geo-engineering". It's something I am speculating about, based on various news reports and the like that I have seen during the most recent several years.
I think a common idea about it among climate researchers and their fans (like me), is that it would be a last resort, if whatever happens between now and year 2100 in the way of climate mitigation—reducing carbon and other greenhouse gas emissions—is seen as not enough to "keep things cool." So that whatever risks would be incurred by spraying human engineered materials ("stuff") into the air or onto the remaining ice sheets could be framed for decision makers as less worrisome than the risks of not resorting to this kind of geo-engineering.
I said "a large fleet of airplanes." Unmanned aircraft, I would think. It could be (unmanned) ships. Or some other onshore or offshore setup for disseminating the "stuff" into the air. Or into the sea to accelerate the growth of photosynthesizing plankton to take more CO2 out of the atmosphere. Or to stimulate the formation of sunlight-reflecting clouds.
There are any number of these ideas.
What kind of stuff? It could well involve very small particles or droplets of fluid that are the products of nanotechnology. "Nanomaterials."[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 12-02-2022).]
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WonderBoy
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DEC 02, 09:52 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
Those are great questions, and they come straight from the great heartland of America. There's not another post office address that says "America" more clearly than "Bandera, TX". Fortunately, the answers are equally clear. Start with the "bullets":
- The Biden administration on Thursday [September 15, 2022] launched [a] floating wind turbine initiative that includes leasing enough deep-water acreage to support 15 GW of floating offshore wind capacity by 2035.
- The administration also set a goal of cutting floating wind farm costs by more than 70% to $45/MWh by the middle of the next decade through the Floating Offshore Wind Shot effort.
- Clean energy advocates (investors/scammers/tax $$$ grifters/company owners) said the initiative would boost offshore wind development. “Paired with the recently enacted Inflation Reduction Act, these targets will dramatically reduce costs for offshore wind development, allowing deployment of clean energy at the scale needed to take action to address climate change,” American Clean Power Association CEO Heather Zichal (Heather wants more scum average American tax $$$ to support her phoney company CEO position. Seriously, American Clean Power Association? Another Soros/Gates funded organ?) said in a statement.
Moreover, "There is about 1,500 GW of fixed-bottom offshore wind potential in the United States and 2,800 GW of floating offshore wind potential, according to a study by the National Renewable Energy laboratory (National Renewable Energy laboratory... Who funds this now? "We need more money to justify our laboratory").
However, only about 40 GW of fixed-bottom offshore wind is under development in the United States and 0.1 GW of floating capacity has been deployed globally, according to the Biden administration.
While the U.S. has been slow to develop fixed-bottom offshore wind, the Biden administration aims to be a leader in floating offshore wind technology by building on its previous goal of adding 30 GW of offshore wind by the end of this decade.
The Floating Offshore Wind Shot, led by the departments of Energy, Interior, Commerce and Transportation, aims to slash the cost of floating wind technology.
“Achieving this cost target will require focused research, development, and demonstration to catalyze continued cost reductions, with a focus on manufacturing, engineering, and continued increases of offshore wind turbine capacity,” the White House said.
Bringing floating offshore wind technology to scale will unlock opportunities for offshore wind power off the coasts of California (D-evil) and Oregon (D-evil), in the Gulf of Maine and elsewhere where the water is too deep
(more like the B.S. is "too deep")forr fixed-bottom wind farms, according to the White House."
Moving beyond that, "Clean energy advocates in California (D-evil) which last month adopted a 25 GW offshore wind goal, praised the moves by the Biden administration.
'A moonshot target, with interim goals and tangible, targeted research and development funding are all key parts of the offshore wind puzzle that need to be put into place to help stave off the worst impacts of global warming,' (I thought it was climate change, I'm confused) Laura Deehan, Environment California state director, said in a statement.
The administration’s floating offshore wind target provides long-term regulatory certainty that will drive investments toward manufacturers, ports and shipbuilders, Liz Burdock, Business Network for Offshore Wind president and CEO, said in a statement.
'The future of offshore wind lies in deeper waters requiring floating technology, and this comprehensive plan sets the U.S. on a path to become a global leader in this cutting-edge industry and a major exporter of expertise and supplies,' Burdock said.
The Department of Energy on Thursday said it is offering nearly $50 million in research, development, and demonstration funding for floating wind technology, partly through the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law.
The funding includes $31 million for the second phase of an Advanced Research Projects Agency-Energy program called Aerodynamic Turbines, Lighter and Afloat, with Nautical Technologies and Integrated Servo-control, or ATLANTIS."
"Biden administration launches floating offshore wind initiative with 15 GW target by 2035"
Ethan Howland for Utility Dive; September 16, 2022.
https://www.utilitydive.com...d-initiative/632043/
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I'm seeing a lot of corrupt, (D-evil) massive debt states needing more fed tax dollars. Tax dollars sucked away from flyover country. Payrolling more and more big gov wet (rising sea level) dreams. Won't floating windfarms displace ocean water? Will Obammy and Cali elitists with their coastal homes need to relocate due to this massive man made rising sea levels these projects will cause???
To be continued...
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WonderBoy
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DEC 02, 10:09 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
The fallacy of this meme is that it's about what has already happened, instead of what is happening now and what is going to happen.
"Connect the dots."
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Fallacy???
Oh, I'm connecting the dots alright.
You Love child labor.
You Love slavery.
You Love child sexual grooming well before 2+2 is established in a child's mind.
S-I-C-K C-U-L-T
D-evil
This is what the WEF/Soros/Gates does. Exploit poor countries and provide themselves and their controlled subordinates 🤑 wealth. And I thought that's what the looney-liberal-groomer lefties said how the USA became wealthy... But nooo, not with liberal--->MARXIST sea-level wet dreams. Nope.
I love how you just bypassed that meme. Side stepped it. Typed/tapped a little side-shoe dance.
It happened, get over it, you say. Shouldn't these kids and their families be given reparations? Nope, that would admit wrong doing by lefties/china and their fellow USA based tech CEOs.
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rinselberg
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DEC 03, 01:54 AM
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| quote | Atop the Mauna Loa volcano on the Big Island of Hawaii, a little more than two miles above sea level, a 124-foot aluminum tower has been collecting carbon dioxide measurements nearly every hour, every day, for over 60 years.
That stopped on Sunday night, when Mauna Loa erupted and the flow of lava cut off power to the monitoring lab there. On Thursday, lava was still moving downhill from the volcano, overtaking roads, but posing few risks to nearby communities.
It was a rare interruption in the data collection that has produced the world’s longest running continuous record of the rising levels of heat-trapping carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. . . .
In the late 1950s, [Charles David Keeling] developed the first technique for making accurate measurements of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.
His first Mauna Loa measurements, conducted as part of the Scripps Institution of Oceanography program, recorded an average carbon dioxide concentration of 313 parts per million, meaning that for every one million air particles, 313 of them are carbon dioxide molecules.
Now, levels have peaked around 421 parts per million, the greatest concentration in at least 4 million years. Last year, carbon dioxide emissions totaled 36.3 billion tons, the highest level in history.
Without drastic reductions in greenhouse gas emissions, the planet is on track to warm by an average of 2.1 to 2.9 degrees Celsius, compared with preindustrial levels, by 2100, according to a recent report issued by the United Nations.
That is far higher than the aspirational goal that governments endorsed in the landmark 2015 Paris climate agreement, and it crosses the threshold beyond which scientists say the risk of climate catastrophes increases significantly. . . . |
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Mauna Loa eruption interrupts the world's most famous atmospheric carbon dioxide observatory
Elena Shao for the New York Times; December 2, 2022.
https://www.nytimes.com/int...n-keeling-curve.html[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 12-03-2022).]
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olejoedad
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DEC 03, 08:56 AM
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What an opportune location for measuring atmospheric pollution.
On top of a volcano!
🦇💩😵💫
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WonderBoy
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DEC 03, 09:21 AM
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Could the below earth magma spewing out of earth zits create enough lava that flows into the Pacific ocean raise the sea levels even MORE? 😲
We must stop this or Hawaii will be underwater! Nuke the Canos! We must setup a worldwide commission/companies that don't produce ANY service/product of leftists, you know, those that are good at telling others what to do while they collect 6 figure yearly 'global earth tax' funded salaries and do absolutely NOTHING but b!tch and make demands. While importing more slaves expendable migrant workers to be on the front lines of danger to handle the 'problem' yet not receive the same protections and healthcare those who sit on their dead arses barking orders and fear mongers get.
Round and round we go.
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cliffw
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DEC 03, 12:33 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
The fallacy of this meme is that it's about what has already happened, instead of what is happening now and what is going to happen.
"Connect the dots."
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Ok, I will connect the dots. Where is the next dot going to be, when it happens ?
Those that do not learn from history, or are ignorant of it, will learn a harsh lesson.
The solution to Global Warming is simple simple simple.
| quote | Originally posted by cliffw:
I remember, you floated the idea that you could save the planet, six miles at a time.
Do you remember that ? |
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
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Let me give you a friendly boot to the butt, to remind you,  .
You floated the idea that we could save the world if we just did not allow 18 wheelers from the shipping dock. We could make it electric to get those last six miles done.
Did you ever think about what you are told,  ? You are too smart to have thought about it yourself.
the green six miles
How fitting. Green. I remember, do you (?), when green in the face donated sickness. Tell us illustrious rinselberg, who came up with the thought that climate zealots thought 'green' would sell ?
I digressed, sorry.
I hate and will not begin a sentence/thought/verbal communication with 'so'. Your thoughts were that if the big diesel big azz 18 wheelers stopped six miles away from the docks, we could save the planet, six miles at a time. Or, the big azz 18 wheelers could have an electric 'green' motor to allow the supply chain to function.
Where are you going to get a big azz 18 wheeler with a dino powered engine and also an electric motor, ?
Oooh ooh, ask me, please. It's called the diesel electric powered solution. You may have heard of a locomotive. They got zhit done, seemingly impossible zhit in the oil fields I worked on all my life.
Do you really think wind and solar will make us worry free comfortable ?
Do I force you to go to my church ? Don't force us to worship your green god. You do you, and I will do me. You can't save the planet making us help. You can though save the last six miles of the world by doing your part, helped by all the other green worshipers. Saving half the world is better than nothing.
Oh, yea, solving Global Warming is simple simple simple. Just bring back R12 freon, which it was said would deliver a new ice age.
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rinselberg
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DEC 03, 02:56 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
What an opportune location for measuring atmospheric pollution. On top of a volcano! |
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The Mauna Loa site was the first such observatory for monitoring how many carbon dioxide molecules are at ground level (it's essentially at ground level) in the atmosphere.
A number of other such facilities were subsequently created all around the world, and so, this volcanic eruption is not disrupting the continuity of that data or causing any significant loss of data.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 12-03-2022).]
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cliffw
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DEC 03, 04:30 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
... and so, this volcanic eruption is not disrupting the continuity of that data or causing any significant loss of data.
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That's what you say, 'o illustrious one.
You must not remember 'climate gate'. Perhaps, you have had a beer since then. I would hope to think you are not a fentinal junkie. Perhaps you were too young.
Liar liar, pants on fire
Ooh, I bet you don't know about the prejudiced reports of 'science' data tools of measurement.
All of the smoke and mirror tools used to scare you, were biased.
I guess you don't remember when the Planet's overlords had a meeting. To sell Global Warming. It was a bad idea to hold it in the winter, where they didn't have enough heat.
By the way, I am moving. I have a half used bag of salt, about 40lbs. Probably two years old. I bought it to protect me and my wife, during our Global Warming Ice maggedon. It's yours for free.
Do you know why I bought ice ? It melts ice. When is the glacier ice going to flood Kalifornia ?
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rinselberg
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DEC 03, 05:26 PM
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I am well aware of that history from 2009, involving the Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia in England.
If someone is looking for a hat, upon which to hang their Greenhouse Gas Emissions denialism, it's an obvious and convenient such hat.
I don't think it's important.
I think it's been rendered moot by all of the history that's transpired since 2009, including climate-related weather events that are a matter of record.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 12-03-2022).]
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