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williegoat
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JAN 23, 07:15 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Not even semantics, I don't know what that was! Haha...
We have our own "Conservative" version of Jazz-Man here... |
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He is not Conservative. He is everything the Left claims the Right is. Think about that for a moment. 
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82-T/A [At Work]
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JAN 23, 07:45 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by williegoat:
He is not Conservative. He is everything the Left claims the Right is. |
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Racist, belligerent, and conspiratorial.
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williegoat
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JAN 23, 07:54 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Racist, belligerent, and conspiratorial. |
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My assertion, or the subject thereof?
(Just kidding, I know the answer.)
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82-T/A [At Work]
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JAN 23, 08:05 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by williegoat:
My assertion, or the subject thereof?
(Just kidding, I know the answer.) |
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I'm sure he'd probably be a blast if we all met at the local bar though, we would just have to keep Soros, Bill Gates, Hispanics and other such topics off the table.
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blackrams
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JAN 23, 08:13 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
I'm sure he'd probably be a blast if we all met at the local bar though, we would just have to keep Soros, Bill Gates, Hispanics and other such topics off the table. |
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You left off Putin. 
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sourmash
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JAN 23, 09:31 PM
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Putin wants to recreate the Soviet Union!
LOL. You guys are brilliant.
We don't talk politics and religion at the bars I go to. We talk music mostly.
Willie, just because I own you, you like to call people names like a bratty child. You use the exact names that BLM and Antifa use, because you want to virtue signal. Grow a pair. And teach that kid 82 how to act.
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sourmash
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JAN 23, 09:39 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by williegoat:
He is not Conservative. He is everything the Left claims the Right is. Think about that for a moment. |
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Now Billy, don't be hostile just because I duct taped your imposter persona between your eyes.[This message has been edited by sourmash (edited 01-23-2022).]
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sourmash
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JAN 23, 09:41 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Racist, belligerent, and conspiratorial. |
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Gee, that's everything a liberal Dem has for a vocabulary. Feeling cornered?
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blackrams
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JAN 24, 09:31 AM
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And Putin continues to push the envelope:
Russia notifies Ireland of 'unwelcome' naval exercises off Irish coast
https://www.msn.com/en-us/n...AT50iL?ocid=msedgntp
Russia has notified Ireland of Russian naval exercises in international waters in the Irish Sea, Irish Foreign Minister Simon Coveney said on Monday, adding that they were unwelcome.
"We don't have a power to prevent this happening but certainly I have made it clear to the Russian ambassador in Ireland that this is not welcome. This isn't a time to increase military activity and tension," Coveney said.
Russia said late last week its navy would stage a sweeping set of exercises involving all its fleets from the Pacific to the Atlantic, the latest show of strength in a surge of military activity during a standoff with the West.
One thing for sure, putting all your eggs in one basket is most surely one way to get an omelet. Be careful what you wish for, you might just get it.
Or, as Forrest Gump's mama said, Stupid is as stupid does.
How about, Be careful when playing with fire, you might get burnt.
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sourmash
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JAN 24, 10:09 AM
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I know most of you aren't very literate on politics or international intrigue, but it's a passing hobby for me.
Here's a little easy reading to show how the Clintons and Soros were involved in pilfering Russian assets. Soros and his ethnic relatives worked to loot Russia with the help of the Clintons.
https://thesaker.is/putin-expels-the-families/
"During the privatization period, international capital wasted no time in opportunistically swooping in to take over Russian industries. The Clinton administration sought to redesign the economic policies of the nascent Russian Federation according to the Washington Consensus: privatization, deregulation, austerity, and the opening up of Russia’s companies to purchase by ultra-wealthy Americans. They gave the role of economic planning in Russia to the Harvard Institute for International Development, which sent Harvard economists to meet with Anatoly Chubais, Boris Yeltsin’s head of privatization. The close relationship with Anatoly Chubais allowed a select group of American investors to be on an inside track of financial dealings in the new Russia. One Harvard grad involved in this scheme was Jonathan Hay, convicted inside trader. He became senior advisor to the GKI, Russia’s new state privatization committee.
Certain members of this network, which included Harvard graduates Hay, Jeffrey Sachs, Andrei Shleifer, Robert Rubin, Larry Summers, David Lipton, and others, misused funds from USAID that were intended for Russian economic development and rigged deals for privatization to gain control of key Russian industries in backroom negotiations. In one 1995 off market deal, Anatoly Chubais created a closed bidding process for prime national properties in which the only approved bidders were Harvard Management Company and George Soros. This resulted in the acquisition of major stakes in Sidanko Oil, Novolipetsk Steel, and Sviazinvest."
The criminality was not limited to foreign speculators. During the early period of privatization in the 90s a secret society of seven Russian oligarchs entirely controlled Boris Yeltsin’s administration. This group called itself Semibankirschina, named after the Seven Boyars who controlled Russia during the 17th century. The secret society included the following oligarchs: Boris Berezovsky, Mikhail Khodorkovsky, Mikhail Fridman, Petr Aven, Vladimir Gusinsky, Vladimir Potanin, and Alexander Smolensky.
A Russian journalist named Andrey Fadin described their overwhelming power in an article, “they control the access to budget money and basically all investment opportunities inside the country. They own the gigantic information resource of the major TV channels. They form the President’s opinion. Those who didn’t want to walk along them were either strangled or left the circle.” Less than one year after publishing the article Andrey Fadin was killed. Through their front man Anatoly Chubais, Semibankirschina used control of television networks to prop up Boris Yeltsin’s low approval ratings. From the mid-90s to 1999 this clique had total authority over Russian policies and industries, judiciously using violence to enforce its monopoly. In one case Mikhail Khodorkovsky and his underling Leonid Nevzlin carried out the murder of the mayor Vladimir Petukhov, who was pursuing Yukos Oil Company’s evasion of taxes.
In late 1999, Vladimir Putin became president of Russia and the fortunes of these self-appointed rulers rapidly turned for the worse. A new group of Putin insiders such as Gennady Timchenko, Vladimir Yakunin, and Sergey Chemezov formed and began supplanting the previous access that the Semibankirschina had to the president. In 2001, a state takeover of media seized the television networks previously owned by oligarchs Boris Berezovsky, Vladimir Gusinsky, and Badri Patarkatsishvili, prompting Patarkatsishvili to denounce Russia to the New York Times and flee the country. While exiled in the UK, Patarkatsishvili died suspiciously at the age of 48. The Georgian government has called his death an assassination. Boris Berezovsky also died suspiciously in the UK after having sold his Russian assets and denounced Putin. After his television networks were seized, Vladimir Gusinsky was criminally charged with money laundering and forced to flee the country as well.
The sweep continued as three other allies of the Semibankirschina were killed: Nikolai Glushkov, Alexander Litvinenko, and Boris Nemtsov. Bill Browder was deported in 2005, and later convicted in absentia for fraud. Fraudster Konstantin Ponomarev was also convicted, sentenced to 8 years in prison for crimes relating to his extortion of $1 billion from IKEA. Jamison Firestone, an associate of Ponomarev and Browder, was forced to flee Russia due to his involvement in the Magnitsky case, and his associate Alexander Peripilichny mysteriously died while jogging near London. George Soros was banned from Russia, Belarus, and Kazakhstan.
Once the richest man in the country, Mikhail Khodorkovsky’s fortunes turned for the worse as well. In the early 2000s, Putin pushed through a number of populist reforms for criminal, tax, and land law, which the oligarchs of the 90s had strongly opposed. As the most blatantly criminal member of the original Semibankirschina, Khodorkovsky’s Bank Menatep had been founded with funds stolen as part of the looting of state assets. The bank operated as a hub of money laundering and engaged in countless financial scams, even delaying government funds to Chernobyl victims while using their money to financially speculate. It was Bank Menatep through which American fraudsters had allegedly ripped off Avisma shareholders with the titanium dumping scam.
In 2003, Khodorkovsky was criminally prosecuted by Putin for tax evasion and fraud for which he ended up serving 10 years in prison. His protege Leonid Nevzlin was convicted of ordering multiple contract murders on Khodorkovsky’s behalf, and sentenced to life imprisonment in absentia. Associate Platon Lebedev was also convicted and imprisoned. This wave of prosecution sent a message and gave Putin a strong position, which was used to negotiate a “grand bargain” with the remaining oligarchs: they retained most of their existing assets in return for alignment with Putin’s vertical rule of Russia. The era of financial gangsterism from the 1990s was over.[This message has been edited by sourmash (edited 01-24-2022).]
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