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ray b APR 04, 02:15 PM

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Originally posted by cliffw:


[URL=http LYING DOGE doings[/URL]

DOGE has been to many federal departments, not just Social Security.





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BTW WHY DOES TODD GET TO
TELL US HOW TO FEEL
ABOUT THE NASTY LIES HE LIKES FROM THE RUMP
AND THE DISASTER THAT IS RUMP'S MAGAt
NewDustin APR 05, 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by cliffw:
Not according to the Minister of Truth. One needs a Social Security number to even get a job. Source ? Social Security Administration.


Well, if we're going to cite the SSA lets cite the actual SSA:
https://secure.ssa.gov/apps...s.nsf/lnx/0110211420 says:
"It is important to distinguish non-immigrants with employment authorization from non-immigrants without employment authorization and know what document(s) establish employment authorization.
DO NOT process an employment authorized Social Security number (SSN) application for a non-immigrant unless the alien submits the appropriate evidence showing employment authorization."

Or we could cite UCIS, which details Trump's EAD process:
https://www.uscis.gov/i-9-c...refugees-and-asylees


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Originally posted by cliffw:
How many illegal aliens did Biden allow in ? How many new Social Security numbers were issued ? How many new jobs were created for the illegal aliens. Did Biden create 20 million new jobs ?


See the above. These things do not correlate, because the findings discussed in the video at the top of this post are specifically about documented, legal resident aliens going through proper procedures that were established by the Trump administration.


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Originally posted by cliffw:
DOGE doings

DOGE has been to many federal departments, not just Social Securityc


I know...it's terrible that we will literally never get another chance to look at government efficiency like this again because this effort is being so thoroughly squandered on nonsense and political agenda. Remember when they wouldn't even let Ron Paul and Bernie Sanders audit the Fed? Elon gets this kind of access and he wastes it on xenophobic, tax-avoiding nonsense.

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cliffw APR 07, 04:28 PM

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Originally posted by NewDustin:
Well, if we're going to cite the SSA lets cite the actual SSA:
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"It is important to distinguish non-immigrants with employment authorization from non-immigrants without employment authorization and know what document(s) establish employment authorization.
DO NOT process an employment authorized Social Security number (SSN) application for a non-immigrant unless the alien submits the appropriate evidence showing employment authorization."



Heh heh. What a bunch of gobble-de-goop. (Not on you.) I had to read that numerous times.

When applying for a Social Security card, is it asked if you are an immigrant or a non-immigrant ? I would / do not know. I do know I had a Social Security number / card many years before I had my first job. Just as I obtained one for my children as they were born. I never had to supply evidence of any sort.
I know...it's terrible that we will literally never get another chance to look at government efficiency like this again because this effort is being so thoroughly squandered on nonsense and political agenda. Remember when they wouldn't even let Ron Paul and Bernie Sanders audit the Fed? Elon gets this kind of access and he wastes it on xenophobic, tax-avoiding nonsense.

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82-T/A [At Work] APR 10, 07:30 AM

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Originally posted by theBDub:

This chart is just for those following a legal process to obtain citizenship. The EBE program started under Trump. These are not illegals. You can’t just declare that they are illegal immigrants because you don’t agree that they were asylum seekers.




Dubs, and New Dustin... we've been over this at least a dozen times already. THIS is the key reason why they have SSNs. The overwhelming vast majority of these people would never be granted asylum because there is no such thing as an "Economic Refugee." Therefore, literally all Central Americans would be forced to be returned back to their home countries. Only a few people, like those from Haiti, or from Venezuela, or Cuba, would have been actually granted citizenship... or Uyghers from China. Everyone else would be rejected citizenship (or should be). What is defined as an asylum seeker and refugee status that grants it is clearly defined on multiple Federal websites, previously under Biden.

Again, you guys keep saying no no no, this isn't true or it's not what it seems. It's exactly what it seems. This is why many of these people were given asylum hearings that were sometimes over a decade out. The goal was to get as many illegals into the country as possible, deal with that later... and the Democrats hoped that by that time, they could have granted blanket citizenship to them. They've literally stated this numerous times.

I don't know why I have to keep saying this... I don't understand what narrative you guys keep trying to push?