Something to ponder... (Page 5/10) olejoedad MAR 24, 03:17 PM quote Originally posted by BingB: And I have explained that his "gift" was useless in the United States for millions of people who were born into chattel slavery. Their right to freedom had nothing to do with any god. The government was the one who gave them their freedom. You have never posted a convincing argument in the entire time you have been on this Forum. olejoedad MAR 24, 03:19 PM quote Originally posted by BingB: Who do you think ended slavery? Republicans. olejoedad MAR 24, 03:23 PM quote Originally posted by BingB: Okee Dokee. The PEOPLE told the government to end slavery. I agree with you on that. But it still proves my point that people rights do not come from god. Yet the 1st Amendment guarantees the right to worship as one chooses, and prevents the government from endorsing one particular religion of all of the others. BingB MAR 24, 05:57 PM quote Originally posted by olejoedad: Nothing is more powerful than God. Then God is not the one who grants the right to liberty because there were millions of people living as chattel slaves in the United States until the laws of the government changed. BingB MAR 24, 05:58 PM quote Originally posted by olejoedad: Republicans. Correct. Not God. olejoedad MAR 24, 06:18 PM Your responses indicate that you are pursuing a moronic line of reasoning. BingB MAR 24, 07:02 PM quote Originally posted by olejoedad: Your responses indicate that you are pursuing a moronic line of reasoning. No they do not. If you give me the details of your claim I will show how you are wrong. williegoat MAR 24, 07:02 PM quote Originally posted by olejoedad: Your responses indicate that you are pursuing a moronic line of reasoning. No answer will satisfy him. Fred is like an annoying child that keep asking "Why? Why?" over and over, just to get attention. 82-T/A [At Work] MAR 24, 07:10 PM quote Originally posted by BingB: Correct. Not God. We the people of the United States believe our rights come from the following three sources: GOD NATURE MAN BingB MAR 24, 07:25 PM quote Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: We the people of the United States believe our rights come from the following three sources: GOD NATURE MAN This post is a perfect example of what I have been saying about the people who make their politics the same as their culture. The fact that you believe that you can speak for all "the people of the United States" proves that you don't understand the United States. You believe that the United States only belongs to people who agree with you. People in the middle like myself can see both sides of the argument. And it is clear that "the people of the United States" are pretty evenly split on where our rights come from. You will never be able to see these issues clearly until you learn to separate your cultural beliefs from political discussions.