Army reservist's traumatic brain injuries eyed in last year's deadly shooting spree. (Page 5/9)
rinselberg MAR 10, 07:58 PM

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State police said the gun Robert Card used in October was purchased in the town of Poland just days before he entered a psychiatric hospital in New York.


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Fellow Army reservists also expressed concern about Card's mental state in the months before the shootings. According to body camera video obtained by the Bangor Daily News, New York State Police troopers visited Card on July 16, 2023.


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Shortly after [the interview of Robert Card by New York State Police,] the Army said Card was admitted to a civilian psychiatric hospital in New York, where he stayed for two weeks before returning to Maine.


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Three months after the conversations with state police in New York, Card committed the worst mass shooting in Maine history.


"Maine State Police identify gun used in Lewiston mass shootings"
News Center Maine; February 16, 2024.
https://www.newscentermaine.com/article/news/local/le wiston-auburn/maine-state-police-testimony-robert-card-mass-shooting-gun-purchase-mental-health-timeline/97-82ae726e-d42a-4bde-a363-21eb9c744645


Is there a case to be made for upgrading Maine's Extreme Risk Protection Order or "yellow flag" gun laws to bring Maine into line with the "red flag" laws in many other states, even if this was a singular case that arguably would not have been prevented? As I posted previously in this thread:

"Maine shooting: Why mental illness is not always disqualifying for legal gun ownership"
https://youtu.be/_sVDKssMqrA
MSNBC air date: October 26, 2023. The complete video segment is 6 minutes and 34 seconds.

"Why Maine's 'yellow flag' law isn't adequate"
Maine Gun Safety Coalition; updated after the Lewiston killing spree.
https://www.mainegunsafety....ess%20to%20firearms.

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williegoat MAR 10, 08:05 PM
Again, you are avoiding the issue because all you want is to disarm the American citizens. You don't give a damn about the people involved. The people you should be worrying about are outside your window, sleeping on the sidewalk.
Patrick MAR 10, 08:14 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

Again, you are avoiding the issue because all you want is to disarm the American citizens.



As usual, this has become a pointless exercise. There's none so deaf as those who will not hear.
cliffw MAR 11, 06:30 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:
When I encountered the first breaking news reports about "killings" in Maine—as the tragedy was unfolding—my first thought was "It must be a bombing or series of bombings, or some artfully contrived plot using a chemical poison or biological agent."



You can imagine my surprise when later reports revealed it was a gun!
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No, I can not. Imagine my surprise when you stated you actually saw a news report which did not villainize the gun.

Bombing(s) ? .


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Originally posted by rinselberg:
You can't go to a federally licensed Bomb dealer and buy a ready-to-use bomb in a single, straightforward retail transaction.



Why did your first thought think it must be a bomb ?
rinselberg MAR 11, 10:07 AM
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A state-of-the-art Red Flag law is compliant with this process flowchart. It doesn't require police interaction to start the process. A complainant can directly petition a judge with a sworn affidavit, under penalty of perjury, to explain why the judge should authorize the temporary removal of firearms from someone's possession.

Maine has a so-called "yellow flag" law that is more cumbersome to use, because it requires police intervention and an evaluation by a mental health professional before a judge can authorize the temporary removal of firearms from someone's possession.

A state-of-the-art Red Flag law would have allowed the family of the 2023 Lewiston shooter to take their concerns about family member Robert Card directly to a judge to request the temporary removal of the firearms that were known to be in Robert Card's possession.

"Extreme Risk Laws Save Lives"
Everytown for Gun Safety; updated February 14, 2024.
https://everytownresearch.o...isk-laws-save-lives/

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williegoat MAR 11, 10:57 AM
Government is not the solution. It is the problem.

Every day, your keepers make more laws. Every day, our lives become more restricted.

Find a solution that doesn't violate the Constitution, a solution that doesn't restrict freedom, a solution that doesn't need the government.

"Woke Progressives" are neither.
williegoat MAR 11, 11:01 AM
There are literally thousands of people across this country who's full time job is to curtail our freedom. Many of these people are not even elected. This should be a crime.

You want to know why there are so many angry, frustrated people in our country? This is why.

Just stop it.

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BingB MAR 11, 11:04 AM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

Government is not the solution. It is the problem.
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You can't just make up gibberish like this and claim it is true without explaining what you mean.

How exactly is the government to blame for the unacceptable level of gun violence in America?

And what do YOU think should be done to address this problem? It is easy to cry about problems. It is much tougher to actually come up with ideas to fix problems.
BingB MAR 11, 11:05 AM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

There are literally thousands of people across this country who's full time job is to curtail our freedom. Many of these people are not even elected. This should be a crime.


Who?

Illuminati?

Shape shifting lizard people?

Boogey man under your bed?
williegoat MAR 11, 11:06 AM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

and again, in case you missed it:

I have been saying it here for years, every time one of these incidents comes up.

Help these people before it becomes necessary to involve law enforcement. All that does is make things worse. Get the family, church or schools involved. Consult mental health professionals. Try being compassionate instead of confrontational. Be the caring person you pretend to be. Don't fake it, make it.

The left sees every tragedy as an opportunity to promote their agenda. Prevent the tragedy, instead. It is not as sensational, but it will advance civilization.

Stop being progressive and woke. Wake up and promote actual progress.