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olejoedad
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FEB 20, 10:25 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by BingB:
Nothing I said was incorrect, and joining the NRA won't change that in any way.
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The first part of the quoted sentence is incorrect, but the second part probably is.
There is a saying in my family that applies in this situation.
'Argue with a road sign, and take the wrong way.'
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cliffw
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FEB 20, 10:42 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by cliffw:
When someone does commit slander or libel or perjury or fraud or incite a riot do we take away their right to free speech ?
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| quote | Originally posted by BingB:
Those limits on free speech apply to everyone. None of us are free to do any of those things. So I don't really understand your question.
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Do you not understand what you read ? Do you need my help ?
All of are free to do all those things. Repeatedly. We are not free to use free speech maliciously.
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cliffw
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FEB 20, 10:49 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by BingB:
I have enough common sense to understand that it is a good idea to keep guns out of the hands of violent convicted felons. |
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Any citizen would know that the buyer is a convicted felon if we had laws requiring background checks for every gun sale. That is my entire point. Every gun has to be licensed to a specific owner so that we can enforce the laws we already have.
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Why did Martha Stewart lose her gun possession rights ?
Your entire point is flawed.
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cliffw
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FEB 20, 10:51 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by BingB:
I can't cite cases or anything like that. but I am pretty sure that the SCOTUS has upheld all the limitations on free speech that I listed.
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That is evidence ? Because you think so ?
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cliffw
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FEB 20, 10:54 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by BingB:
The SCOTUS has upheld limitations on gun ownership for felons, people who commit domestic violence, and people with dangerous mental illness. they have also upheld limitations on owning fully automatic weapons and explosive devices.
The "right to bear arms" is ALREADY limited.
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| quote | Originally posted by BingB:
I can't cite cases or anything like that.
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BingB
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FEB 20, 02:40 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by cliffw:
That is evidence ? Because you think so ? |
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No. I KNOW it is the law of the land. I just don't know if it has been challenged in court and ruled on by SCOTUS.
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BingB
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FEB 20, 02:46 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by cliffw:
Why did Martha Stewart lose her gun possession rights ?
Your entire point is flawed. |
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I always include the term "violent" before "felon" when talking about who should not have guns.
So I agree with you that Martha Stewart should be allowed to own a gun.
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BingB
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FEB 20, 02:49 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by cliffw:
Do you not understand what you read ? Do you need my help ?
All of are free to do all those things. Repeatedly. We are not free to use free speech maliciously. |
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Yes I do need your help.
If you are free to say anything you want then that means your rigths are NOT limited.
If you can go to jail for something you say then that means your rigths ARE limited. And you can go to jail for using your "speech" to incite a riot.
So are your rights limited or not?[This message has been edited by BingB (edited 02-20-2024).]
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BingB
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FEB 20, 02:53 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
There is a saying in my family that applies in this situation.
'Argue with a road sign, and take the wrong way.' |
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Actually, if that saying applied here then you would not be arguing with me.
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olejoedad
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