Difference between "Judaism" and "Zionism". (Page 5/15)
randye OCT 10, 05:23 AM



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rinselberg OCT 10, 06:04 AM

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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:
Why is it ok for the forum idiot [ray b] to keep spouting his crap and not be rated for it?


Has ray b ever threatened Jake_Dragon personally? Has he ever insulted Jake_Dragon by name? Not by insulting Republicans, or Donald Trump, or advocates of Christian belief (etc.), but by singling out Jake_Dragon as an individual and posting something offensive about Jake_Dragon? Posting something as directly and personally insulting as "Jake_Dragon is a toad licking monkey waxer."..?

I think the answer is "No."

It looks like to me like Jake_Dragon has misused the forum member rating system by "negging" ray b solely because of ray b's thoughts and opinions.

It looks to me like Jake_Dragon has misused his posting privileges by suggesting that other forum members follow suit. Here we see Jake_Dragon whipping other forum members to "neg" ray b as a partisan exercise, based only on disagreements with ray b's ideas and opinions. These links that Jake_Dragon has posted, that link directly to the forum function for rating ray b, are wrong-headed.

I'm offended by Jake_Dragon's attitude on this.

I am also gobsmacked that Jake_Dragon would refer to ray b as the forum idiot, when there are other obvious contenders for that most singular of "honors."

Nothing is more repellent to me than people who come to an open discussion forum of this kind, and then try to use the rating system as a tool to shut down another forum member because they don't like the other forum member's ideas or politics.

That's cowardly.

"Do not weaponize politicize the Rating System."

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82-T/A [At Work] OCT 10, 07:34 AM

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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

When did you ever think I was cool.
Why is it ok for the forum idiot to keep spouting his crap and not be rated for it?




I am a little bummed that when I clicked the link, there weren't actually Big Booty Goth Chicks... hahah...


EDIT: I see Fredtoast was banned. Anyone know what brought him over the edge?

It's not fair to make aspersions when they're not here to defend themselves, so I won't speculate as to what I think he likely said. But I warned Fred many times... he is in many respects like JazzMan. He doesn't understand communication dynamics, doesn't properly infer language, and doubles-down when he thinks he's being attacked. All of this is a sign of Asperger's syndrome or ASD. Many people with this learn to adjust and it's a non-issue... but he seems to be in denial. In the famous words of Strother Martin,

"What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men, you just can't reach, so you get what we had here last week. Which is the way he wants it ... well, he gets it. I don't like it any more than you men."


(the above is best read with Vivaldi's Four Seasons "Winter" playing in the background)


Me personally, I'd come to really despise that guy. When he felt comfortable being open, the stuff he said was just sick.

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Cliff Pennock OCT 10, 09:11 AM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

EDIT: I see Fredtoast was banned. Anyone know what brought him over the edge?



Before anyone starts emailing me, it was the speedban. I had nothing to do with it - other than implementing this feature many years ago. 😁
williegoat OCT 10, 09:46 AM

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Originally posted by Cliff Pennock:

Before anyone starts emailing me, it was the speedban. I had nothing to do with it - other than implementing this feature many years ago. 😁


Well it's good to know that the system works. Toast was like sourmash's cousin.
rinselberg OCT 10, 10:06 AM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
I'd come to really despise [fredtoast.] When he felt comfortable being open, the stuff he said was just sick.


Oh please... if you want "sick," I can show you plenty of sick on this forum that was someone else, and not fredtoast.

I think it was foolish of him to start a topic about the legality v. illegality of humans having sex with animals. I think he was trying to make some point about how we humans are given to being carnivores, except for vegans and vegetarians.

Aside from that, I don't think that anything that fredtoast has ever said is "sick."

I think you are way out of line with this Asperger's diagnosis that you have been so persistent in talking about, v. fredtoast.

Even if it were true, you made your point. It's wrong to keep repeating it.

Maybe he does have Asperger's syndrome? So what?

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82-T/A [At Work] OCT 10, 11:13 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Oh please... if you want "sick," I can show you plenty of sick on this forum that was someone else, and not fredtoast.

I think it was foolish of him to start a topic about the legality v. illegality of humans having sex with animals. I think he was trying to make some point about how we humans are given to being carnivores, except for vegans and vegetarians.

Aside from that, I don't think that anything that fredtoast has ever said is "sick."

I think you are way out of line with this Asperger's diagnosis that you have been so persistent in talking about, v. fredtoast.

Even if it were true, you made your point. It's wrong to keep repeating it.

Maybe he does have Asperger's syndrome? So what?





And all of the people who have said things that are "sick" are gone... from both sides. Did we not get rid of Sourmash, and others who persisted a lot of really negative and sick discourse? I take pride in being the champion that got Sourmash off the forum, despite the insinuation that he was on "my side." I had nothing to do with Fredtoast being kicked. For the record, I had him listed as a negative (the only one I have of current forum members) after his bestiality post.

But it was more to that, he made several comments in the General forum that he says were meant to be funny, that were wildly inappropriate. He even made a comment about sex and dating underaged girls in a post I made about my daughter working on her car. I suspect you don't go into General all that often... but there were multiple instances where he made comments that were wildly inappropriate.

... which is why I keep harping on the Asperger's. It's absolutely not to make fun of him... but it was to warn him that he's not reading the room and he's pissing people off. I know you're mad... and respectfully Rinse... you are viewing this from the lens of a win / lose perspective. Same way that I did when MEM was booted. But this isn't about politics. The Democrats haven't "lost points" because Fred was booted from Pennocks. Fred was INCITEFUL, not INSIGHTFUL... and that's the problem. He likely completely misread the group, and views everything from an attack perspective, and attacks everyone that doesn't agree with him. This is wildly different than how you approach things, which is why you're still here. And as you know, I have you listed as a positive. Anyway, I kept harping on it because he needs to understand the way he's interacting with people is divisive and he's going to end up getting banned. And guess what... it happened. Not through anything that I did... I can assure you.

EDIT: I wanted to re-emphasize something I said here, "Fred was INCITEFUL, not INSIGHTFUL... and that's the problem. He likely completely misread the group, and views everything from an attack perspective, and attacks everyone that doesn't agree with him."

... this is important, because when you have someone like this in a group, it PERSISTS that kind of attitude. You and I can have a peaceful conversation... a debate even, on different ideas. Sometimes I agree with you, mostly I don't, but I respect your views in that I figure either you are missing some information ... or perhaps I am. But that's now how people like Sourmash and Fred are. I honestly think the two of them might even be the same person... like a bi-polar version of the other. For the 1% insightful comments that Fred would make... the rest of his comments were INTENTIONALLY meant to be mean spirited and to create anger and hate.

MEM shouldn't have been banned. I see him as the Republican version of RayB. Ray B, whom I like... makes comments that are wildly inappropriate. Like... look above with this comment basically suggesting it's the Jews that are doing everything. Ray is a character. But I know that if there was a Jewish person in the street who needed help... I think Ray would help him. I don't think Fred would... and I'm generally a really good judge of character, which is why you have a positive from me.

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ray b OCT 10, 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:


When did you ever think I was cool.
Why is it ok for the forum idiot to keep spouting his crap and not be rated for it?



the rate is NOT for censorship as you want to do

spouting what ever you do not like is allowed

insults attacks lying is what the ratings try to control [CALL ONE AN IDIOT IS AN ATTACK]

you want an ECHO CHAMBER with only RWNJ POSTS

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williegoat OCT 10, 11:49 AM
Toast was an authoritarian pseudo-intellectual. He was an admirer of people like Abbie Hoffman and Ernesto Guevara, although he frequently demonstrated an abysmal lack of historical knowledge. He attributed Ike’s famous farewell address to LBJ.

He also claimed to be a lifelong Bluegrass fan living in Tennessee, but couldn’t spell Ryman.

He was constantly rude and insulting, and revoltingly arrogant; yet the left stood behind him without question. That should be enlightening, but it doesn’t matter because he served his purpose.

Toast was here for one reason. He was here to spread hate and discontent.

Regarding the rating system, I have never given anyone a negative rating. For me, it brings bad karma. I have learned that if you give people like furgal, sourboy and toast enough rope, they will eventually use it. That is the beauty of Free Speech.
Jake_Dragon OCT 10, 11:54 AM

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Originally posted by ray b:


the rate is NOT for censorship as you want to do

spouting what ever you do not like is allowed

insults attacks lying is what the ratings try to control [CALL ONE AN IDIOT IS AN ATTACK]

you want an ECHO CHAMBER with only RWNJ POSTS




you spout nonsense most of the time, when you do take more than 5 seconds it looks more like copy paste from someone else.
You have several times called people Nazi because of their belief.
Anyone that doesn't believe the way you do has been attacked.
Directly, no but do you understand the difference?
When I see atrocities happening in the world and then come here to where I have friends and see its all Rumps fault. Its all Russian propaganda and Rumps involvement.

Animals are just that and I don't care what flag, book or news organization they hide behind.
Time to take out the trash. If that offends you then perhaps you should spend some time reflecting on why.

I apologize for misleading some of you.
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