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| How "American Dream" has killed the middle class (Page 5/15) |
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fredtoast
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SEP 23, 11:06 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Doug85GT:
Then there is the Occupy Wall Street movement which would vehemently disagree with your characterization that the government polices the rich.
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Again the point is going over your head.
The Occupy Wall Street movement AGREES with me 100% that it is the governments job to protect the disadvantaged from the power of wealth.
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fredtoast
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SEP 23, 11:13 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by randye:
Define "rich".
Define "poor".
Do both of those without using any of the usual Leftist class resentment and envy.
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Dang, randy, I knew you were not very bright, but I thought you would know the meaning of these simple words.
Rich.....having a great deal of money or assets.
Poor.....lacking material possessions
But if you look at my original post you will see that I am talking about the "middle class" which is not necessarily "poor". I may have used the two terms interchangeably, but in general I am talking about the wealthy exploiting the middle and lower class.
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randye
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SEP 23, 05:14 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by fredtoast:
I am talking about the wealthy exploiting the middle and lower class.
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You Leftoids just can't help yourselves can you?
It's ALWAYS about Marxist class resentment and envy with you.
It's ALWAYS about Marxist "oppressors" and "oppressed" with you.
175 YEARS of FAILURE of Marxist ideology and there's still fools like you lining up to pimp for it.[This message has been edited by randye (edited 09-23-2023).]
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Doug85GT
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SEP 23, 05:37 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by fredtoast:
Again the point is going over your head.
The Occupy Wall Street movement AGREES with me 100% that it is the governments job to protect the disadvantaged from the power of wealth. |
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Which means the government current does not, otherwise there would not be an OWS movement. So this is just your wish list, not anything anchored in reality.
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Doug85GT
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SEP 23, 05:47 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by randye:
You Leftoids just can't help yourselves can you?
It's ALWAYS about Marxist class resentment and envy with you.
It's ALWAYS about Marxist "oppressors" and "oppressed" with you.
175 YEARS of FAILURE of Marxist ideology and there's still fools like you lining up to pimp for it.
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Not only that, but they are illiterate of economics. Poor people obviously are not employers. There are some small business people who could be classified as middle class. Ironically, the same laws these ignorant people push burden small businesses the most.
All of these class warriors are useful idiots for the crony capitalists. All of these extra laws and regulations are used by the crony capitalists to protect their positions in the market.
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ray b
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SEP 23, 07:32 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by randye:
You Leftoids just can't help yourselves can you?
It's ALWAYS about Marxist class resentment and envy with you.
It's ALWAYS about Marxist "oppressors" and "oppressed" with you.
175 YEARS of FAILURE of Marxist ideology and there's still fools like you lining up to pimp for it.
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some one needs a reminder
no liberal government ever went commie
the exact RWNJ failing government is an actual fact needed before any commie take over
A RIGHTWING FAILURE ALWAYS PRECEDES COMMIES
there is no slippery slope never was any danger of liberals going commie
NOT ANY WHERE AT ANY TIME
EVERY TIME HAS BEEN RWNJ'S FIRST
your whole idea is a BIG LIE
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fredtoast
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SEP 24, 12:41 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by randye:
You Leftoids just can't help yourselves can you?
It's ALWAYS about Marxist class resentment and envy with you.
It's ALWAYS about Marxist "oppressors" and "oppressed" with you.
175 YEARS of FAILURE of Marxist ideology and there's still fools like you lining up to pimp for it.
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Can you please learn to read and respond to what I say. I know it is difficult to break the way they have trained you to respond to any mention of "wealthy" and "poor", but here is what I actually said
| quote | Originally posted by fredtoast:
We need a capitalist economy to promote efficiency and innovation.
I don't want "socialism" or "communism" in America. All I want is an honest government that admits that in a capitalist system the gains of the "winners" come from the "losers", and puts some systems in place to protect and care for the losers. Do things to balance the scales. If citizens see the system as rigged against them then they don't have as much incentive to strive for success.
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Why can't you have an actual conversation about what I actually say?
This exact same thing happened in a thread where I siad I was a gun oowner and suggested gun laws that would not prevent any citizen from legally owning a gun.
"OMG!! OMG!!! LIBERALS TRYING TO TAKE AWAY ALL OUR GUNS!!!"
You all are so brainwashed that you can not even respond to what I say in any way other than right-wing speaking points.
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fredtoast
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SEP 24, 12:46 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Doug85GT:
Ironically, the same laws these ignorant people push burden small businesses the most.
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No they don't. This is just a speaking point that you have been programmed to respond with. Give me an example of a regulation I am proposing that hurts small business the most.
| quote | Originally posted by Doug85GT:
All of these class warriors are useful idiots for the crony capitalists. All of these extra laws and regulations are used by the crony capitalists to protect their positions in the market. |
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Again you are just blindly parroting speaking points.
Please give an example of "extra laws" I am proposing that are used by crony capitalist to protect their position in the market. You have no clue what you are talking about.
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fredtoast
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SEP 24, 12:47 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Doug85GT:
So this is just your wish list, not anything anchored in reality. |
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WTF are you talking about. I have already listed several specific examples that prove my point.
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rinselberg
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SEP 24, 11:57 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by randye:
You Leftoids just can't help yourselves can you?
It's ALWAYS about Marxist class resentment and envy with you.
It's ALWAYS about Marxist "oppressors" and "oppressed" with you.
175 YEARS of FAILURE of Marxist ideology and there's still fools like you lining up to pimp for it.
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It takes a special kind of "dumb" to imagine that the most recent 175 years of history can be reduced in its entirety to the failures of Marxist ideology.
And lest anyone be tempted to quibble that randye didn't say that the most recent 175 years of history can be reduced in its entirety to the failures of Marxist ideology, think again. That's all randye ever talks about... 99 percent. Here's a case where fredtoast started a forum topic by expressing some liberal to progressive sentiments (but not any really specific ideas) about the role of government, and the only reaction from these MAGA-brainwashed thumbsuckers is to pretend like fredtoast is staging a public reading of the Communist Manifesto.
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