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Wichita
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AUG 24, 08:42 PM
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There are plenty of wild fires intentionally set by leftist eco-terrorist.
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Patrick
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AUG 24, 08:57 PM
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rinselberg
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AUG 24, 09:54 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Wichita:
There are plenty of wild fires intentionally set by leftist eco-terrorist. |
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Yeah... like that's going to muscle aside the other factors like drought conditions, prolonged high temperatures and strong winds.
Even if you favor forest "mismanagement" as a more explanatory factor than "climate change", the significance of "leftist eco-terrorists" strikes me as something that there's not much evidence for... discounting the social media "rando's" (random people) that Wichita looks to for the "facts" that (mis)inform his fantasy world.
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82-T/A [At Work]
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AUG 25, 08:50 AM
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rinselberg
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AUG 25, 09:15 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Man arrested on suspicion of starting Northern California fire that burned more than 100 homes
https://apnews...d5ec3209f58c
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That's something that Wichita hasn't offered.
I'd still have to scroll through these news reports to see whether I would agree that Wichita's invocation of "leftist eco-terrorists" actually lines up with the facts of each case.
And then I'd have to try to weigh the significance of this sample or selection of news reports, in terms of the larger "picture."[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 08-25-2023).]
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cliffw
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AUG 25, 09:35 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Bottom line though, if the state is willing to do their part AND adopt the Federal recommendations for fire management... then they can help prevent these fires. It seems to me though, a great many of them START as a result of mental illness (radical activists that cause the thing they're trying to bring attention to), ... |
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| quote | Originally posted by fredtoast:
I guess that is why I can't find a single person who opposes forest management. |
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You are not a card holding member of the radical tree hugging movement ?
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82-T/A [At Work]
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AUG 25, 09:39 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
That's something that Wichita hasn't offered.
I'd still have to scroll through these news reports to see whether I would agree that Wichita's invocation of "leftist eco-terrorists" actually lines up with the facts of each case.
And then I'd have to try to weigh the significance of this sample or selection of news reports, in terms of the larger "picture."
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There were hundreds of examples using Bing. The ones I picked were the top 5 that came up from past year. There were dozens of them, but I specifically picked ones that were unrelated, Canada, Oregon, California, Arizona, Spain, etc.. In almost every case, it was someone who was doing it because they were trying to bring attention to global warming (activism). You can make the judgement as to whether or not they were "leftists." But it appears this is a huge problem. There has to be a psychological term for this... but there are people in vast numbers who commit crimes... literally commit crimes to cause the negative effects to bring attention to something they believe is causing a negative effect. Like, burning down a forest, to bring attention to global warming, because they think global warming is causing forest fires. It's absurd... but this happens a lot... whether it's a girl scratching OBAMA into her forehead, or Jussie Smollett paying two black guys to beat the **** out of him and say it was white country folk in downtown Chicago screaming, "THIS IS MAGA COUNTRY!"
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rinselberg
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AUG 26, 11:55 AM
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I reviewed the news reports about wildfires that 82-T/A put up.
There were 6 reports, but 3 were about the same fire and the same arsonist.
There isn't anything in any of these 6 reports that suggests a "leftist" or an "eco-terrorist" motivation for any of these arsonists.
"There are plenty of wild fires intentionally set by leftist eco-terrorist."
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Wichita
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AUG 27, 08:48 AM
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rinselberg
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AUG 27, 11:17 AM
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Puerto Rico is still struggling, five months later, to recover from Hurricane Maria and from an inept relief effort from the Trump administration. Now, new reporting indicates that last October, the Federal Emergency Management Agency awarded a $156 million contract to a one-person company in Georgia that was assigned to help deliver 30 million emergency meals to hurricane survivors.
Instead, just 50,000 ready-to-eat meals were delivered, according to The New York Times.
On Tuesday, Democrats on the House Oversight Committee demanded that FEMA be subpoenaed to examine the documents the agency has refused to hand over, to find out how such an emergency relief debacle took place.
It is difficult to fathom how FEMA could have believed that this tiny company had the capacity to perform this $156 million contract, Reps. Elijah Cummings of Maryland and Stacey Plaskett of the Virgin Islands wrote in a letter to the oversight chairman. “FEMAs decision is even more incomprehensible given the companys inability to fulfill previous government contracts that were only a fraction of the size.
Indeed, the company in question, Tribute Contracting, had already had at least five previous FEMA contracts canceled because the company wasn’t able to deliver goods as promised.
Tribute also had no experience in large-scale disaster relief.
“According to these documents, one of the primary reasons FEMA failed to deliver these meals is because it inexplicably awarded a contract worth approximately $156 million to deliver 30 million emergency meals to a tiny, one-person company with a history of struggling with much smaller contracts,” Cummings and Plaskett stressed.
FEMA officials insists all necessary meals were eventually delivered. But the massive contract that has to be torn up certainly affected the larger relief effort, and more importantly, this latest revelation highlights the chaotic and botched relief effort that has become a hallmark failure of the Trump presidency.
Last year, it FEMA had to cancel a $30 million contract to another tiny, inexperienced contractor who failed to deliver hundreds of thousands of tarps and rolls of plastic sheets it had promised for storm survivors.
An Associated Press investigation into that failure revealed a FEMA organization that bordered on recklessness with its inept handling of crucial contracts to help rebuild Puerto Rico.
These FEMA debacles are reminiscent of the no-bid, $300 million contract to rebuild Puerto Ricos power grid that was awarded to a tiny Montana start-up company called Whitefish Energy, which also had no previous experience with federal contracts.
Whitefish Energy just happened to be located in the hometown of Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke, and was financed by a major Trump donor.
Eventually, that contract was also canceled.
If FEMA under Trump was as good at disaster relief as it is at canceling botched contracts, the American citizens of Puerto Rico might be much better off today.
If that looks suspiciously like copy and paste, it is.
"Democrats demand to know why 30 million emergency FEMA meals never got to Puerto Rico"
Eric Boehlert for the American Independent; February 16, 2018.
https://americanindependent...-got-to-puerto-rico/
Just another episode of "Wichita = white noise."
https://www.merriam-webster...ca%20Joseph%20Nocera[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 08-27-2023).]
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