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Patrick
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NOV 28, 08:20 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Why does everything I say need to be backed up by a link?
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Maybe because you have a long history here of frantically making up stuff to suit your agenda?
| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
You were wrong about the phone call, I linked it for you...
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Without anyone asking you for anything, you supplied a link along with your comment. Your comment was contrary to information in the very link you provided. To say I was "wrong" because I didn't fact check your link is pretty rich!
| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
In this case, he doesn't have to be seen as "the man" because he literally is "the man" in the most powerful position in the world come January.
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Did you (and/or your political cronies here) regard Biden or Obama as "The Man" when either one of them was in charge? I've read the posts here. I already know the answer to that question.
Sorry, but outside of the US (and in many parts within the US), Trump is not seen as "The Man"... no matter what his position on the world stage may be. I just hope he doesn't destroy your country, and damage a lot of others (including Canada) in the process.[This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 11-28-2024).]
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82-T/A [At Work]
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NOV 28, 08:50 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Maybe because you have a long history here of just making up stuff to suit your agenda?
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Give me an example. When have I "made something up." I don't take things that personally, but you're basically calling me a liar. It doesn't bother me because I know I'm not, but mots people would be pretty pissed...
| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Without anyone asking you for anything, you supplied a link along with your comment. Your comment was contrary to information in the very link you provided. To say I was "wrong" because I didn't fact check your link is pretty rich!
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The fact that there was a phone call wasn't the point of my original post... it's that the president was going to work with Trump to stop the border crossings. You are the only one who seemed to not understand that there was a phone call that took place, so I had to find a link that talked about it. No idea why that was your focus? Not for nothing, but why is it so hard for you to admit when you're wrong? This is like a non-issue for me... when I'm wrong, it's no sweat off my back.
| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Did you (and/or your political cronies here) regard Biden or Obama as "The Man" when either one of them was in charge? I've read the posts here. I already know the answer to that question.
Sorry, but outside of the US (and in many parts within the US), Trump is not seen as "The Man"... no matter what his political position may be. I just hope he doesn't destroy your country, and damage a lot of others (including Canada) in the process.
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Obviously, I can understand why other people in the world might find it obnoxious, but under present time, the United States is the most powerful nation in the world, and the President thus becomes the most powerful person in the world.
I took less issue with Obama, I didn't like him, but Biden, I just thought he was a complete fool... even when he didn't have dementia the guy always made bad decisions. But that didn't negate the fact that when they were president, they were still the most powerful people in the world.
... is this going to be another one of those where you will go back and forth FOREVER until I just stop responding? Not trying to be a jerk, I'm just curious if there's a point or if this is just trolling.
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Patrick
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NOV 28, 09:07 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Give me an example. When have I "made something up."
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I've called you on it many times. It's all still here for your perusal. I'm not going to waste my time supplying a past example... because it had no effect on you when originally posted, and it won't have any effect on you now.
| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
... is this going to be another one of those where you will go back and forth FOREVER until I just stop responding? Not trying to be a jerk, I'm just curious if there's a point or if this is just trolling.
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And as usual, when you're called out on something, the other party (in this case, me) is accused of "trolling". Quit embellishing your posts with made up nonsense ("the President of Mexico has frantically called Trump...") and I'd have little to b!tch about.
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Patrick
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NOV 28, 10:22 PM
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Trump Mocked After Mexico's President Blows Up His Brag About Their Call
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Problem solved, Trump claims.
Donald Trump seemed to offer alternative facts on Wednesday about his call with Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum and was swiftly rebutted by the leader herself, prompting mockery on social media.
In a post on Truth Social, the president-elect declared that Sheinbaum had “agreed to stop Migration through Mexico, and into the United States, effectively closing our Southern Border.”
Shortly afterwards, Sheinbaum posted on X, formerly known as Twitter, about the conversation, saying, “we reiterate that Mexico’s position is not to close borders, but to build bridges between governments and communities.”
Both leaders characterised the call as positive. The two spoke after Trump on Monday threatened to impose a 25% tax on all products entering the country from Canada and Mexico as soon as he takes office. He also vowed a 10% tariff on goods from China.
Trump said the tariffs would remain in place until “such time as Drugs, in particular Fentanyl, and all Illegal Aliens stop this Invasion of our Country!”
The incident was somewhat reminiscent of Trump’s claim in 2016 that he would make Mexico pay for “100%” of a proposed wall at the US border. Peña Nieto, Mexico’s president at the time, declined. Mexico did not pay.
Social media users sarcastically celebrated Trump’s fictional victory.
“All it took was one call. Donny deals,” journalist Sam Stein posted on the platform.
Mike Nellis, a former aide to Vice President Kamala Harris, said “Trump thinks he convinced the President of Mexico to stop all migration across the border LOL.”
Olivia Troye, a former Trump White House official, offered a “translation” for the Republican’s words.
“Just had a conversation with the President of Mexico who didn’t allow me to bully her, which left me confused about my charm…she pointed out that this is very bad…very bad for me if I do these tariffs…” she posted on X.
More at above link
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blackrams
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NOV 28, 10:27 PM
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Well, I guess we'll see what happens. Two different perspectives of a conversation. I'm not going to suggest either one's version is wrong but, it's sure as hell when they hung up there were two different understandings of what had just transpired.
Now, if I was a betting man (which I try to avoid doing), my bet would be that the 25% sanction is going to hit in January.
Rams
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Patrick
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NOV 28, 10:44 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
Now, if I was a betting man (which I try to avoid doing), my bet would be that the 25% sanction is going to hit in January.
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Your original post is copied below. If you'd care to make a wager based on what is highlighted below, I'll take you up on it... with the loser paying into Cliff Pennock's Beer Fund. How much do you wish to give Cliff? 
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blackrams
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NOV 28, 10:48 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Your original post is copied below. If you'd care to make a wager based on what is highlighted below, I'll take you up on it... with the loser paying into Cliff Pennock's Beer Fund. How much do you wish to give Cliff?
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As I previously stated, I try to avoid betting.
Edited: BTW, the original post was a quoted article, if you would look at what I said at the bottom of the quoted article, pretty sure I said this will be interesting.
Rams[This message has been edited by blackrams (edited 11-28-2024).]
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Patrick
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NOV 28, 10:51 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
As I previously stated, I try to avoid betting.
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That's okay, I was just checking. I'm not much of a bettor either, but I didn't think this was much of a gamble. 
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Patrick
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NOV 28, 11:03 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
Edited: BTW, the original post was a quoted article, if you would look at what I said at the bottom of the quoted article, pretty sure I said this will be interesting.
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Not denying any of that... but you did just recently post (in the last few minutes) the comment below. I was simply offering to take you up on it, if you wished to follow through. No harm done.
| quote | Originally posted by blackrams Here:
...my bet would be that the 25% sanction is going to hit in January.
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blackrams
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NOV 28, 11:07 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Not denying any of that... but you did just recently post (in the last few minutes) the comment below. I was simply offering to take you up on it, if you wished to follow through. No harm done.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by blackrams Here:
...my bet would be that the 25% sanction is going to hit in January.
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I have other priorities for the use of my and or your money. You are welcome to send all you can afford. I and others are still paying for Biden's bad judgements.
Rams[This message has been edited by blackrams (edited 11-28-2024).]
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