Federal judge dismisses Disney's law suit against Desantis, Commissioners (Page 4/5)
blackrams FEB 01, 03:36 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

But it makes the forum just a little bit less.




Your personal opinion is noted.

Rams
82-T/A [At Work] FEB 01, 03:40 PM
Back on the Disney topic... it's important to understand and read exactly what the judge said in his decision:

"Winsor said that "Disney cannot validly argue that the court can go beyond the laws’ text because the statute is facially constitutional. The secondary problem is that the laws’ effects are not limited to Disney. The laws are directed at a special development district in which Disney operates,” he said. Disney is not the district’s only landowner, and other landowners within the district are affected by the same laws.

Point blank... the laws that are affecting Disney are constitutional, and while DeSantis obviously initiated it as punishment for Disney, he did so in a way that the law was intentionally written to "correct a wrong" that existed in the management of these special districts that existed prior to the passage of the Florida Constitution. This law went through the normal legislative process, and is not only Constitutional, but ensures that these companies are now actually abiding by the state's Constitution (which they were not previously).

This was the clear argument that I'd made on here when we began discussing it over a year ago... and I am not shocked that the judge came to the same conclusion. The judge's responsibility isn't to enact social justice. The purpose of these judges first and foremost is to support the state... that being the Federal government, or the state government. More specifically said, their goal is to TRY to find a way to defend the laws presented to them as constitutional... and NOT to strike them down. This is very opposite from most people's understanding of the court. Their job is to identify if they can uphold the constitutionality of a law... and only if they cannot, do they strike it down.

Maybe that's not how you'd want it in Rayb-landia, but in the United States... that's the purpose of the court... not to enact social change.

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ray b FEB 01, 08:02 PM
the pig judges the rump inflicted on our courts are a curse

de-satan will be gone soon

he should have respected the resign to run law
but cheated and had a good law removed
he is a mini rump and that is all he will ever be
sad that the evil RWNJ ever got in office
it takes a real creep to make the mouse look good

now he want to invade texas steers and queers beware
randye FEB 01, 09:32 PM

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You can mock the messenger—Rachel Maddow—,...... but what about the message itself?






As with all Leftists, the messenger is the message.



Leftists gotta Leftist
...and they deserve to be mocked for it

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rinselberg FEB 02, 06:27 AM

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Once again, the hooting and howling of our Leftist peanut gallery here is proven WRONG

This federal court decision also obviously renders Disney's parallel state level litigation moot.


Whenever I encounter a MAGA-infected patient (or potential patient) braying like a lobotomized jackass over some supposed victory for the MAGA cause, I ask myself "Is that the whole story?" In this case, there's a fat lady waiting patiently offstage for her chance to sing. Here's a new development:

"Disney appeals dismissal of free speech lawsuit as DeSantis says company should ‘move on’"

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Disney filed a notice of appeal over Wednesday’s ruling by a federal judge in Tallahassee, saying that it would set a dangerous precedent if left unchallenged by giving states the green light to weaponize their powers to punish opposing viewpoints. A separate lawsuit over who controls the district also is still pending in state court in Orlando.

Disney had argued that legislation signed by DeSantis and passed by the Republican-controlled Legislature transferring control of the Disney World governing district from Disney supporters to DeSantis appointees was in retaliation for the company publicly opposing the state’s “Don’t Say Gay” law. The 2022 law banned classroom lessons on sexual orientation and gender identity in early grades and was championed by DeSantis, who had used Disney as a punching bag in speeches on the campaign trail until he recently suspended his campaign for the 2024 GOP presidential nomination.


Mike Schneider for the Associated Press; February 1, 2024.
https://www.pbs.org/newshou...mpany-should-move-on

At the very least, this legal case involving Florida Governor Ron Desantis has not yet been salted away as a "1" in the governor's Win column, and it's still a risk for anyone to be braying about it like a lobotomized jackass... the risk of premature celebration. Perhaps you've seen some of the video highlights over the years, where a football player with the pigskin in his grasp breaks into celebration as he's about to cross over the goal line to score a touchdown, and fumbles the ball on the 1-yard line. The risks of premature celebration...


Much has been made of Rachel Maddow in this thread, with the childish "Lesbo" memes and the silly slogans about "Leftists." I guess that's because the first reporting that I highlighted, hoping to bring it to the forum's attention, is from Steve Benen, who among his other curriculum vitae, is a producer for The Rachel Maddow Show, and the editor of MaddowBlog. Here's a look at that:


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As if his faltering Republican presidential campaign weren't a big enough problem, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis keeps losing court fights, too.


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Dealing a blow to [Governor] Ron Desantis of Florida, a federal court of appeals on Wednesday ruled that he had violated First Amendment protections when he suspended a progressive state prosecutor for political gain. The ruling, by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit, undercut Mr. Desantis on an episode he has made a key credential in his presidential campaign.


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The matter is now headed back to a lower court, but in the meantime, it’s worth pausing to appreciate just how frequently the GOP governor’s culture war efforts have struggled in the courts. Last summer, for example, DeSantis’ policies against drag shows and trans care have suffered legal setbacks, which were part of a lengthy pattern.

DeSantis also lost when a court blocked Florida’s “Stop WOKE Act”; his anti-protest measure was also blocked by a federal judge; the Republican’s law to regulate social media companies was blocked by a different federal judge; and the cases brought by his elections police unit have largely fallen short.


This is a brief article. It has links embedded within it, that any bona fide Ron Desantis enthusiast could use to access more reporting on these cases.

"Ron Desantis’ latest blow: yet another legal setback in court"
Steve Benen for MSNBC MaddowBlog; January 11, 2024.
https://www.msnbc.com/rache...ack-court-rcna133494


PBS has a recent article about the case of the Florida prosecutor that Governor Desantis had suspended from his office as prosecutor:

"Court sends case of prosecutor suspended by DeSantis back to trial judge over 1st Amendment issues"
Curt Anderson for the Associated Press; January 10, 2024.
https://www.pbs.org/newshou...1st-amendment-issues


Here's another one that was published at the end of last year:

"Judge says DeSantis spread false information while pushing trans health care restrictions"
Brendan Farrington for the Associated Press; December 21, 2023.
https://www.pbs.org/newshou...th-care-restrictions


Does anyone else have any braying, lobotomized jackass stories that they'd like to share?

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82-T/A [At Work] FEB 02, 06:30 AM

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Originally posted by ray b:

the pig judges the rump inflicted on our courts are a curse

de-satan will be gone soon

he should have respected the resign to run law
but cheated and had a good law removed
he is a mini rump and that is all he will ever be
sad that the evil RWNJ ever got in office
it takes a real creep to make the mouse look good

now he want to invade texas steers and queers beware




Ok, let me use an example. Remember when the conservative court ruled in favor of the Obama Administration in the lawsuit against the Affordable Care Act? The court sided with the President's lawyers and upheld the law as constitutional. Even though I was very unhappy about it at the time, I accepted the fact that if they said it was constitutional, then it was.

Consider then Disney... who had been operating for over 50 years in a way that was counter to the laws on the state's Constitution. I don't think this is being question, right? I'm assuming you know this?

While DeSantis may have initiated this as some form of retribution to Disney, the fact is... he had the right. He went through the right process to pass a law that mandated not just Disney, but the 11 other "special districts" (whom had existed prior to the ratification of the state's constitution) abide by the existing law that all the other post 1960s special districts had to abide by. Intent aside... the law was totally Constitutional, and Disney's lawsuit never had any teeth here.

Again, I can't remember what the state's court case is... it might be a tort... and if that's the case, there could actually be a judgement against the state for damages. But it's looking increasingly unlikely since this Federal case now becomes leverage in support of the tortfeasor.
82-T/A [At Work] FEB 02, 06:43 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Mike Schneider for the Associated Press; February 1, 2024.
https://www.pbs.org/newshou...mpany-should-move-on

At the very least, this legal case involving Florida Governor Ron Desantis has not yet been salted away as a "1" in the governor's Win column, and it's still a risk for anyone to be braying about it like a lobotomized jackass... the risk of premature celebration. Perhaps you've seen some of the video highlights over the years, where a football player with the pigskin in his grasp breaks into celebration as he's about to cross over the goal line to score a touchdown, and fumbles the ball on the 1-yard line. The risks of premature celebration...





This is wild… what do you think the point here is? Disney has to know that they can’t win this… there’s no scenario where Disney can win. Whether they’re targeted or not, there’s no right for Disney to continue to exist in a manner that’s unconstitutional to the state. In the original lawsuit, it’s to get rid of the commission that DeSantis appointed (as part of the “ask”), but these commissioners were confirmed by the state’s legislature… so thus, constitutional (and DeSantis has the authority to appoint for new districts per the state’s constitution).

ray b FEB 02, 09:47 AM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
This is wild… what do you think the point here is? Disney has to know that they can’t win this… there’s no scenario where Disney can win. Whether they’re targeted or not, there’s no right for Disney to continue to exist in a manner that’s unconstitutional to the state. In the original lawsuit, it’s to get rid of the commission that DeSantis appointed (as part of the “ask”), but these commissioners were confirmed by the state’s legislature… so thus, constitutional (and DeSantis has the authority to appoint for new districts per the state’s constitution).



rhonda the pig got a rump appointed pig judge to rule NO STANDING on diz

any lawdog knows the money ''wins'' in the end every time
now who has more money rhonda or diz ?

once they get to a real court with a real non rump pig judge
rhonda the want-to-be-nazi will lose on the law

where do the Gop get these pig people like rhonda ?
olejoedad FEB 02, 10:01 AM
Where do the Dems get people like Pelosi, Schiff, Schumer, AOC, Nadler etc.....
williegoat FEB 02, 10:24 AM
The RCID never should have been created in the first place.

What if I wanted to open "Willie's World of Widgets" west of Weeki Wachee? Would they give me the same special status? Of course not.