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Hudini
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JAN 08, 09:21 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by theBDub:
I won’t vote for another Republican until they denounce Trumpian fascism. The Republican Party lost me as a voter, along with many other moderates, when they refused to listen to or even consider their vote in Trump’s impeachment.
So no I’m not really trying to figure out who I support. I don’t support the Democrats, but when a moderate Democrat is an option, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. |
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jeez louis, trump isn't a fascist. Does anyone read history anymore? Biden is more closely aligned with a fascist dictator than trump ever was. Just damn.
fascism
făsh′ĭz″əm
noun
A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
Oppressive, dictatorial control.
Describes the Democrats very well. Except replace the nationalism with globalism.
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randye
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JAN 08, 09:25 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by theBDub:
I’m a Libertarian 
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Your long history of racist, pro social justice whining on this forum sure as hell screams otherwise.
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randye
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JAN 08, 09:36 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Hudini:
jeez louis, trump isn't a fascist. Does anyone read history anymore? Biden is more closely aligned with a fascist dictator than trump ever was. Just damn.
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I've said it many times on this forum; "Most people have the ideological IQ of a tree stump."
People like "BDub" can't actually discern a fascist from a Fig Newton.
It's just a pejorative word for them to express their dislike of someone.
They don't have any real understanding of, and can't coherently articulate, the ideologies of fascism, Marxism / socialism or even classic liberalism or conservatism.
As a glaring example, "BDub" in this thread claims that he is a "Libertarian", yet we have all been witness to his innumerable racist, pro social justice screeds which are in DIRECT OPPOSITION TO THE CORE PRINCIPLES OF LIBERTARIAN IDEOLOGY,
(e.g. Libertarians have been hostile to the concept of social justice since at least 1960 with Friedrich Hayek’s "The Constitution of Liberty" and Robert Nozick’s "Anarchy, State, and Utopia" (1974) )....Both of those books probably well before "BDub" was ever born.
The reason that so many people now "have the ideological IQ of a tree stump" is that they are almost completely "unlettered", a/k/a poorly or marginally educated, ignorant.
They think they know what ideology they, (and by extension others), hold to without ever once having studied it's philosophy.
They are also the people that David Dunning and Justin Kruger point to and say "See, We told you so!"[This message has been edited by randye (edited 01-10-2022).]
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randye
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JAN 08, 10:17 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by sourmash:
Violent felons, do we want them voting? I'm ok with non-violent felons voting. Unless they're habitual offenders.
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If you add to that sentiment: "non-violent felons that have completed their prison sentences including probation time", then I'll listen to argument, otherwise the idea of prisoners voting from state and federal prisons is pure insanity.
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Fats
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JAN 08, 10:47 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by ray b:
many many things LIKE GERRYMANDERS
in the past there were tests or fees poll taxes to limit votes
LONGER AGO ONLY MONEYED CLASSES COULD VOTE
and groups were organized to terrorize people of color to prevent them voting
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Democrats, the word you are looking for here is Democrats. This is a thing that Democrats did, and Republicans put a stop to.
You are welcome.
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randye
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JAN 08, 11:03 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Fats:
Democrats, the word you are looking for here is Democrats. This is a thing that Democrats did, and Republicans put a stop to.
You are welcome.
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Please allow me to help illustrate your, (correct), point:
A group of Demorats posing:
From freeing the Demorat's slaves all the way to civil rights legislation, the Republican party has led the way in righting wrongs.
Oh and "that Civil War thing"....that is STILL the only real insurrection that ever happened in this country and that was Demorats.[This message has been edited by randye (edited 01-08-2022).]
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theBDub
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JAN 08, 11:44 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Hudini:
jeez louis, trump isn't a fascist. Does anyone read history anymore? Biden is more closely aligned with a fascist dictator than trump ever was. Just damn.
fascism
făsh′ĭz″əm
noun
A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
Oppressive, dictatorial control.
Describes the Democrats very well. Except replace the nationalism with globalism.
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From where I sit, it describes Trump and his ilk perfectly.
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theBDub
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JAN 08, 11:47 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by randye:
I've said it many times on this forum; "Most people have the ideological IQ of a tree stump."
People like "BDub" can't actually discern a fascist from a Fig Newton.
It's just a pejorative word them to express their dislike of someone.
They don't have any real understanding of, and can't coherently articulate, the ideologies of fascism, Marxism / socialism or even classic liberalism or conservatism.
As a glaring example, "BDub" in this thread claims that he is a "Libertarian", yet we have all been witness to his innumerable racist, pro social justice screeds which are in DIRECT OPPOSITION TO THE CORE PRINCIPLES OF LIBERTARIAN IDEOLOGY,
(e.g. Libertarians have been hostile to the concept of social justice since at least 1960 with Friedrich Hayek’s "The Constitution of Liberty" and Robert Nozick’s "Anarchy, State, and Utopia" (1974) )....Both of those books probably well before "BDub" was ever born.
The reason that so many people now "have the ideological IQ of a tree stump" is that they are almost completely "unlettered", a/k/a poorly or marginally educated, ignorant.
They think they know what ideology they, (and by extension others), hold to without ever once having studied it's philosophy.
They are also the people that David Dunning and Justin Kruger point to and say "See, We told you so!"
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As someone who has been a card-carrying member of the LP for many years, I’m fairly confident in my understanding of our platform. I also have a very firm foundation for my beliefs, all stemming from a strong sense of personal Liberty.
It’s not something you would understand.
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sourmash
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JAN 08, 11:58 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by randye:
If you add to that sentiment: "non-violent felons that have completed their prison sentences including probation time", then I'll listen to argument, otherwise the idea of prisoners voting from state and federal prisons is pure insanity. |
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Mostly, I agree and that was my position on sentences served. I'm more flexible on probation (yeah, it's part of the sentence). But then again, we're moving away from incarceration for some offenders, so...yeah, I'm still flexible on probationary convicts.
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Fats
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JAN 09, 12:00 AM
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About 15 years ago my youngest sister of around 17 was wearing a Santana shirt at Mom's house.
I said, "Oh, you like Santana?"
She responded that "It's a new band, you wouldn't understand them."
You see randye, you just wouldn't understand the ins and outs of the Libertarian Party. It's cool and hip, and goes with the least offensive Politicians available. They are OK with Communism, as long as it's not that mean tweater. Join them about two months before the next Presidential election when they will once again push forward someone you've never heard of before and profess them the greatest thing since sliced bread!
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