Let's talk about the media, and what journalism should be in a free society (Page 30/38)
cliffw JUL 28, 11:27 AM

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Originally posted by NewDustin:
I could find some liberal hack piece about how conservative states are the worst, ...



Show us.


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Originally posted by NewDustin:
... but it wouldn't have any more value than this does.



Not necessarily.
ray b JUL 28, 11:40 AM
your guys are still arguing about is it raining
no one even looks at a rain gauge
or to see if the ground is wet

but they want to evaluation the education and credentials of the claimants
with out a care if the rain is real

the rejection of the data is a real problem
key to the rump claims of doing a good job
the rump blew it
but if no one looks at the data
he get a free pass to claim BS
ray b JUL 28, 11:43 AM

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Originally posted by randye:
And to do so bereft of even a scintilla of evidence to support their premise.....




you just nailed the base of the rump BS
wild claims factually untrue
that the MAGAt believe
because they like the ideas
never mind the lying

[This message has been edited by ray b (edited 07-28-2024).]

ray b JUL 28, 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by Valkrie9:

BBNN - Breitbart Network News - Today ! July 25 '24
Tell us Newsweek, Just how wonderful KaHa was as veep, in charge of border security, an obvious failure, she should resign too.
Total failure to win any votes, anywhere, doomed to fall flat on her face in the November election, Trump exceeding Ronald Reagan's 525 electoral Votes, the dempartie banished to the wilderness for decades, a great change in the Nation, Newsweek out of business, scalped in the courts, cleaned out.



polls are SHIFTING FAST

THE RUMP WILL BE DUMPED
williegoat JUL 28, 11:47 AM
Is virga rain?
olejoedad JUL 28, 04:09 PM
An essay from The American Mind......

https://americanmind.org/salvo/beyond-lying/
NewDustin JUL 28, 07:17 PM

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Originally posted by cliffw:
Show us


Go back and read why I said doing so would be a bad idea.


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Not necessarily.


I'd argue that the near lack of objective value is absolutley a necessary part of this level of hackery. What's your argument for parsing the validity of individual pieces of hackery?
cliffw JUL 28, 08:00 PM

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Originally posted by NewDustin:
Go back and read why I said doing so would be a bad idea.



You will have to help me. All I could find is you claiming it would be a wash.


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Originally posted by NewDustin:
I'd argue that the near lack of objective value is absolutley a necessary part of this level of hackery. What's your argument for parsing the validity of individual pieces of hackery?



My argument ?

What hacking ?

I am glad to meet you Kreskin. Or, are you Carnac the Magnificent ?

NewDustin JUL 28, 09:48 PM

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You will have to help me. All I could find is you claiming it would be a wash.


I never claimed it would be a wash. I inferred it would be a net loss to the actual truth. I don't want to engage in fudging the truth to benefit my viewpoint.


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My argument ?


Yes. I cannot make it or assume it for you in good faith.

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What hacking ?


Hackery. Not hacking.


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I am glad to meet you Kreskin. Or, are you Carnac the Magnificent ?


Google tells me these are a culturally insensitive Johnny Carson skit and a 'mentalist' from the 1970s. Beyond that I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.
cliffw JUL 29, 10:28 AM

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Originally posted by NewDustin:
Hackery. Not hacking.



Hacking works very well. It would be how one arrives at hackery.


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Originally posted by NewDustin:
I never claimed it would be a wash. I inferred it would be a net loss to the actual truth. I don't want to engage in fudging the truth to benefit my viewpoint.



Hacking of conservative and liberal views, both are claims. Either and also or could be a blatant lie.

The actual truth ? That would be up to the person who will explore each side of an issue. Even then, hindsight is 20/20.


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Originally posted by NewDustin:
Google tells me these are a culturally insensitive Johnny Carson skit and a 'mentalist' from the 1970s. Beyond that I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.



It means you can't know for sure. In this case, without having listened to both sides.

Carnac culturally insensitive ? Only to those who are "soft".