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Patrick
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NOV 28, 04:57 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by cliffw:
What would tariffs do for his ego ?
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The threat of imposing massive tariffs no doubt pumps up his ego. Trump so desperately wants to be seen as "The Man", as even he knows he's regarded by other world leaders as a clown.
| quote | Originally posted by cliffw:
Trump will not back down !
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That makes for very poor negotiating skills then.
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Patrick
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NOV 28, 05:11 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
This may not be a "one way problem" but, I have no doubt any flow whatsoever is greater coming into the US than it is going out.
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I'll agree that the smuggling of people across the border is probably more of an issue of them entering the States from Canada than it is the other way around (however, it absolutely pales to the numbers crossing to the US from Mexico)... but in regards to the smuggling of drugs and firearms across the border, I'd like to see some factual information that would support any claim that the outflow of these goods from Canada to the States surpasses what comes from the States into Canada. It's huge problem for both countries. Blaming it all on Canada is nothing but grandstanding by Trump.[This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 11-28-2024).]
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blackrams
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NOV 28, 05:17 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
I'll agree that the smuggling of people across the border is probably more of an issue of them entering the States from Canada than it is the other way around (however, it absolutely pales to the numbers crossing to the US from Mexico)... but in regards to the smuggling of drugs and firearms across the border, I'd like to see some factual information that would support any claim that the outflow of these goods from Canada to the States surpasses what comes from the States into Canada. It's huge problem for both countries. Blaming it all on Canada is nothing but grandstanding by Trump.
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As I previously stated:
| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
We don't have sufficient Intel to really know that.
This may not be a "one way problem" but, I have no doubt any flow whatsoever is greater coming into the US than it is going out. This is not an attempt to point fingers at any country but, as RayB says, follow the money.
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"WE" as in the general public. Hard to say what information hasn't been released.
Rams[This message has been edited by blackrams (edited 11-28-2024).]
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Patrick
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NOV 28, 05:32 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
"WE" as in the general public. Hard to say what information hasn't been released.
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But that didn't stop you from stating the following...
| quote | Originally posted by blackrams Here:
I have no doubt any flow whatsoever is greater coming into the US than it is going out.
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Based on what? You sound pretty definite, especially considering you yourself stated that "we" don't know all the facts.[This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 11-28-2024).]
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blackrams
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NOV 28, 05:41 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Based on what? You sound pretty definite, especially considering you yourself stated that "we" don't know all the facts.
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Well, news reports could be one source but just reading some of your posts could also be considered as substantial information. 
You've stated things that may or may not be factual but how am I to know for sure. I don't trust our (US) alphabet agencies much anymore so........................
Rams[This message has been edited by blackrams (edited 11-28-2024).]
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Patrick
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NOV 28, 05:50 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
You've state things that may or may not be factual but how am I to know for sure.
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You don't... however I have never posted a downright lie ever at PFF. My opinions may be contrary to popular beliefs in this sub-section, but honestly, I don't care enough about politics to go out of my way to try and deceive anyone.
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blackrams
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NOV 28, 05:54 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
You don't... however I have never posted a downright lie ever at PFF. My opinions may be contrary to popular beliefs in this sub-section, but honestly, I don't care enough about politics to go out of my way to try and deceive anyone.
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Patrick,
I'm not sure where your anger is coming from and why. I know I didn't call you a liar. Show me where I erred. I believe I have stated the obvious and in some ways agree with you but my goodness, settle down and take a break. Just because I stated that "We" don't know doesn't suggest anything about you.
Rams[This message has been edited by blackrams (edited 11-28-2024).]
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Patrick
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NOV 28, 06:03 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
Patrick, I'm not sure where your anger is coming from and why.
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Ron, there is absolutely no anger at my end. I'm not sure what's leading you to believe that.  I'm just trying to make it clear in my posts that Trump is blowing way out of proportion the one-way flow of smuggled goods into the US from Canada. It's most definitely a two-way problem. My dislike of Trump is no doubt showing through, but I have no "anger" towards you or anyone else here.
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blackrams
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NOV 28, 06:09 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
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Ron, there is absolutely no anger at my end. I'm not sure what's leading you to believe that. I'm just trying to make it clear in my posts that Trump is blowing way out of proportion the one-way flow of smuggled goods into the US from Canada. It's most definitely a two-way problem. My dislike of Trump is no doubt showing through, but I have no "anger" towards you or anyone else here. |
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Well, some time go back and read your own posts. They strike me as "angry". But, I'm happy to learn this is more about DJT than the rest of us poor uninformed people. I have a similar for feelings toward Trudeau and his policies. But, he's more your problem than mine. Happy Thanksgiving.
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82-T/A [At Work]
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NOV 28, 07:43 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
There was nothing about a phone call in your original link ("In a letter that she sent to Trump..."). And even in this new link that you've provided, I see nothing about the Mexican President being "frantic".
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Why does everything I say need to be backed up by a link? When did that start happening? You were wrong about the phone call, I linked it for you... but I didn't need to do that. Your Google is as good as anyone's...
| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
The threat of imposing massive tariffs no doubt pumps up his ego. Trump so desperately wants to be seen as "The Man", as even he knows he's regarded by other world leaders as a clown. |
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Personally, I don't care for what reason he does things, so long as it's the right thing. In this case, he doesn't have to be seen as "the man" because he literally is "the man" in the most powerful position in the world come January. I'm just saying though... is it impossible to believe that he's making that decision because he thinks it's the right one, and not because it makes him look cool?[This message has been edited by 82-T/A [At Work] (edited 11-28-2024).]
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