is the right really "against democracy" (Page 3/10)
BingB AUG 20, 04:57 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:
but we are not a democracy.


We are absolutely a democracy. We are not a "pure democracy" or a "direct democracy" but we are 100% a democracy.



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Originally posted by williegoat:
Jim is just trying to start an argument that he thinks he can win, simply because he gets to decide the rules.




I posted the definition from a dictionary to prove I am correct.

I cited the quotation from the Prager video to prove I am correct.

I post proof that I am following everyone else's rules.

YOU are the only one here claiming that you get to make up your own rules and definitions.
BingB AUG 20, 05:01 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:
Jim couldn’t argue with that so he decided to argue against things that I never said.



I did not make up anything that you never said. I will use the quote function to prove it.

you said this



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Originally posted by williegoat:
We have elements of democracy, but we are not a democracy..




We are a democracy. You are wrong to say that we are not. I have posted the proof.
williegoat AUG 20, 06:12 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

“Democracy” does not adequately or accurately describe our form of government.

Jim is nothing but a troll.


There I just proved it.
williegoat AUG 20, 06:13 PM
See how that works?

You know everyone is laughing at you, right?

[This message has been edited by williegoat (edited 08-20-2024).]

BingB AUG 20, 06:32 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

There I just proved it.




I have to admit that I am wrong here.

This thread was started because of a discussion in another thread. In that thread I posted the definition of "democracy" from Merriam-Webster (a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections).

Then I explained that a "republic" is just a subset of "democracy" the way "Fiero" is a subset of "Pontiac". So saying that we live in a republic and not a democracy is liek saying you own a Fiero, but not a Pontiac.

I also explained "pure/direct" democracy which we do not have. And someone had posted a video from Prager about the difference between a 'republic" and a "democracy" and I cited the point in the video where they explained the difference. That is what I meant when I said I cited the Prager video.

So that is why you all wer so confused when I started talking about what I had posted. It was not in this thread.
olejoedad AUG 20, 06:51 PM
We aren't confused at all.

We live in a Constitution Republic. Always have.

We have too many unelected people in governments who write regulations, however, so the Constitutional Republic concept has been diluted by bureaucracy.
Valkrie9 AUG 21, 01:06 AM


' Selfish ignorant people, at the mall.. '
See how simple the concept is, ' We'll lie about ' Democracy ' ' Our Democracy ! ' that never was.. '
Nancy Pelosi, lying about ' Our Democracy ' a democracy that never was.
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' The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.'
~ Winston Churchill
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' A republic, if you can keep it. '
~ Benjamin Franklin's response to Elizabeth Willing Powel's question: ' Well, Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy? '

Monday, September 17, 1787: The Convention Today
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' Gee, I didn't know that, I was always taught America was a democracy ! '
Well, yeah, Nancy has been lying to you for all of your life, to profit from your ignorance, greed the motive,
Nancy is a corrupt, greedy politician who will refuse to return the money she has fraudulently stolen,
' It's mah money ! '
' How can we prosecute the former House Speaker for fraud, insider trading, grift, emoluments, bribes ? '
We will answer those questions on January 21, '25.
A terrible vengeance on the lawless suborned, thrown out of the Temples of Freedom, cast to the wilderness, for decades.
The Dempartie, Kamala and Walz, out of power, forever, the people rejecting the marxist infiltrators, the radical left, the greedy corrupt politicians, who lie daily, attempting to lie her way into the Oval Office, and failing so predictably.
525+ electoral votes for Trump, exceeding Ronald Reagan's 1984 landslide.
It's a no-brainer, Kamala is flat out lying, can't have another liar in power, again.
fjb and the nitwit that rode in with him, eff her too !


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randye AUG 21, 05:59 AM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

“Democracy” does not adequately or accurately describe our form of government. We have elements of democracy, but we are not a democracy.

Jim is just trying to start an argument that he thinks he can win, simply because he gets to decide the rules.




That is precisely why I always say to NEVER let a Leftist frame the question / debate.

Additionally, we have have ask WHY is it so damned important to him that that everyone agree with his definition.

Of course I don't believe for one moment that Lil Jimmy Leftie is sincere about any of his "questions"....or "answers"

Article IV Section IV of the Constitution: “The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government.”

"Democracy is 51% of the people taking away the rights of the other 49%"......Thomas Jefferson

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cliffw AUG 21, 10:07 AM

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Originally posted by BingB:
No one is demanding that (more than two Senators per State).

Everyone agrees with the current different representation levels in both chambers.

The only dispute is between people who believe that the citizens should be able to chose their senators and the people who want to take that power away from them and give it to the government.

Funny thing is that most of the people who want to give this power to the government are the same ones that complain about government HAVING TOO MUCH POWER. The only reason these people have been duped into supporting this anti-democratic strategy is that Republicans hold a majority of State legislature seats. So they are willing to give up their individual rights and give them to the government just to support their party.



Funny thing ? You are a funny thing.

What makes it an anti-democratic strategy ?
cliffw AUG 21, 10:18 AM

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Originally posted by BingB:
We are absolutely a democracy. We are not a "pure democracy" or a "direct democracy" but we are 100% a democracy.



We are not a 100% democracy. We are not a democracy at all. We do utilize democracy.


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Originally posted by BingB:
I posted the definition from a dictionary to prove I am correct.



Can you not even keep up with your lies ?


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Originally posted by BingB:
I cited the quotation from the Prager video to prove I am correct.



Now you imagination has run wild. What Prager video ?


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Originally posted by BingB:
I post proof that I am following everyone else's rules.



No, no you haven't.